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PLMCRZY 01-11-2012 08:02 PM

Persuade me to buy a glock....
 
Why should I get one of these ugly things??


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joebob3093 01-11-2012 10:15 PM

why do you want one? im not a fan, don't fit in my hand at all.

1999stroker 01-11-2012 10:19 PM

I don't like them for the sheer fact no safety just bought a new ruger SR9C and love it. It's a 9mm, id go ruger or s&w


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RanchhandTCR 01-11-2012 10:47 PM

I realy think glocks are over rated big time. Have you looked at the Springfield XD's those a pretty damn good guns. I know the police out here dont use glocks they use the XD's or 1911's

Arsenal 01-11-2012 11:01 PM

Okay so let me rock the boat. I have owned 5 glocks now. I have two currently. One is my everyday carry gun. I have taken and instructed multiple defensive pistol courses. There are a lot of good guns out there. The SR9 is a great little gun, the Springfield XD is a great little gun. I have owned one of the later. They both have one thing in common. They are copies and over engineered versions of the Glock. As for the guy who said no safety, you need to do some more research. there are in fact 3 safeties on a Glock. The fact that they are integrated into the trigger pull speaks volumes about the idea behind making this gun. It is a combat oriented pistol that is built for Operator's. Operator's with the physical and mental stability and ability to distinguish between who or what they NEED to shoot and not a knee jerk reaction trigger finger. That being said some will tout 1911 some will tout Sig. I tell you I own quite a few guns, but the Glock is the only thing that I trust my life to, and it is the only thing I carry. Youtube the takedown of multiple pistols and look for the one with the least moving parts and best track record and you will find the gun you can trust your life and your loved ones lives to. Or you can trust me when I tell you the answer is Glock. And oh by the way I am a 1911 guy that just happened to catch a drink of the Glock coolaid.

RanchhandTCR 01-11-2012 11:13 PM

XD's are a copy of the glock they feel better there not that much to them either I have yet to tear down a glock but I can tear a XD down blind folded. If you want to trust your life to a gun buy a revolver. If it fails pull the trigger again. :c: I belive in the reliability of glocks but I hate how they feel. Its personal prefference. I can vouch for Xds reliability mud, dirt, snow and cow crap it will fire.

H.R.D 01-12-2012 01:49 AM

I have nothing but praise for my glock 27. I am a big man with big hands and it fits my hand perfect. It has the pinky grip integrated into the both of my clips.

gunman41mag 01-12-2012 02:48 AM

I'll throw my two cents, The glock is a gun that will go off every time you pull the trigger, doesn't rust, you can buy plenty of optional parts for it, just a working gun, that doesn't matter if you scratch it, cause it's not a collector's piece.:humm:

Heath 01-12-2012 10:34 AM

I'm new to the pistol world. Have a good friend that's been a cop for 20 years. Glock is not his work pistol but is his preferred personal. I went on his advice. Although I have no experience with others, so far I'm happy with the glock.
Extra parts....just like owning a diesel pickup:)

EggosBrother 01-12-2012 11:20 AM

I have to stick with the Glock Bandwagon. I have owned my G17 (9mm) for 5 yrs now and it is by far my favorite most trusted pistol. I have 1911's, revolvers, & ruger semis. My glock is always with me, night stand, woods, truck, i have even carried it concealed in the winter months. The simplicty, weight, accurracy and dependability are my reasons for being "pro-glock". Dont get me wrong, i love my 1911's and how they shoot but in the stainless flavor and the price tag, i'm less likely to scrape through the woods with it on my side. As far as the Springfield XD's, they are a great buy, $60-$100 less than a Glock and you get more accesories and they have seemed to proven themselves. I have handled an XD compact and it just seemed a little bulky even compared to my standard frame glock. I would not let the thought of "Glock Hype" make you shy away. There is an issue with the recoil spring on the Gen 4 Glocks but Glock has issued a statement saying they will fix it for no charge. Check out all of the calibers and fram variations you can get from Glock opposed to 9mm, .40, and .45 My next one will be a 10mm

Side note on the XD's, just saw in my Concealed Carry Handguns magazine that you can get a compact XD that comes with a grip extension and an extended mag to make it more of a standard frame (minus the longer barrell) not sure if this is brand new but is the first i have seen it.

NadirPoint 01-12-2012 12:27 PM

I'm sure glocks are great guns and 99.9% of all people that use them will never have a problem.

Originally Posted by Arsenal (Post 842159)
...a knee jerk reaction trigger _______.

But, this is the problem I see with the trigger safety. :rolleyes2: Fingers are not the only thing that can pull triggers. I view the trigger safety as a safety that is not safe, itself.

JMHO, YMMV. Disclaimer: I have no qualifications or experience that makes my opinion on the subject worth a hill of beans. :hellox:

EggosBrother 01-12-2012 01:08 PM

the trigger safety is a point of concern and is somewhat dangerous. I have a 3.5lb trigger in mine so its a fairly light pull. You have to be cautious on how you carry.

1999stroker 01-12-2012 01:12 PM

Yeah, mine has a safety and a trigger safety.


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gunman41mag 01-12-2012 02:44 PM

I seen videos where a glock fired when the leather holster folded & pushed the trigger, hitting it owner on the leg:scare2:

NadirPoint 01-12-2012 04:57 PM

There was local guy here lived about 3 miles up the road from me shot himself in the groin holstering his glock, according to the account I read. I didn't know him, just saw the news story last year. Maybe he was an idiot, who knows. :humm:

geddy's uncle 01-12-2012 10:02 PM

They're ugly, but likeable. And reliable. Just always keep your wits about you, and the likelihood of a mishap is greatly diminished. Like driving, cutting vegetables, or baling hay.

Arsenal 01-12-2012 10:36 PM

doesnt sound like he was "holstering". Sounds like a paper gangster doing the front of the pants shoot my D1ck off carry method. My competition glock is down around 2 lbs. Never an issue. but its not my daily carry and nor would i recommend a trigger that light for daily carry. The stock glock trigger is 7lbs and i cannot see how in the world you could set that off holstering it in a PROPER holster. I IWB my carry gun in a well made holster. Maybe ive just been drinking too much Glock coolaid but I fail to see where having all your safeties integrated into the trigger is a bad thing. One thing that seems to strike me as imperative with any gun is trigger control and and trigger safety. If you have your finger on the trigger while holstering... well lets just say you deserve to shoot yourself.

PLMCRZY 01-12-2012 11:10 PM

Now wait a min I have a perfectly fine pistol I just want another one. I want something to tinker on its either a glock 17 or a 1911. I like the glocks cause you can mod the piss out of them same as the 1911s tho...

Hmmm what should I do....


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Arsenal 01-12-2012 11:54 PM

it is insanely cheaper to modify a Glock. Most of my trigger work was done by myself with little or no help. If you are looking for something to tinker with i can say without a doubt its going to be wayaayayayaay cheaper to mess with a glock. If you screw something up short of the barrel slide or frame, most of the parts will cost you less than 20 bucks to replace. Thats one of the reasons ive moved to Glock as a competition gun. I own 1911s and I love working on them but that is a passion with quite abit of cash involved just like my AR's. My Glock is the gun that I can experiment with and not worry about wrecking it short of not being able to shoot it till the seriously cheap stock parts arrive at my doorstep.

big bad diesel 416 01-13-2012 01:00 AM

not a fan of the glocks at all they dont fit in my hand they are large to pack and i have had issues with them jamming that could be ammo but i dont know

i got a sig 226 for a duty gun and carry the sig 239 concealed as backup both .40 cal

some of the other guys carry the 9mm cuz they hold 15 rounds mine only holds 12 in the 226 and 7 in the 239

if i go out and cant conceal the 239 i have a ruger LCR .38 revolver that fits nice in your pocket

NadirPoint 01-13-2012 12:18 PM

Every time I shove my Kimber into the Supertuck and my shirt gets stuck in there with it I think to myself, "damn, I'm glad this thing isn't a Glock!" :w2:

gunman41mag 01-13-2012 01:59 PM

Here are some things to read about
SAFETY WARNING! Worn Leather Holsters Can Cause Accidental Discharges!

Arsenal 01-14-2012 12:49 AM

Yet another addition to the stupid club. Wow, trigger finger people. Any gun could get a bad name if its cheap enuf for idiots to own. Doesnt detract from the gun just the person using it.

1999stroker 01-14-2012 01:02 AM

I'm not saying there bad guns in anyway but I'm saying there's many things to prove there safety systems aren't the best.I know 20 year veterans in police that don't like them simply because there safety system.to each his own, but I wouldn't want my fiancée to pick up my gun and it go off if she accidentally hit the trigger or someone freak like that


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Arsenal 01-14-2012 01:43 AM

Not to continue arguing but. "accidentally go off" Teach her trigger control. If you own anything but a revolver at this point its kinda pointless. For a combat handgun, to me if you have an external safety you are just adding a step(read...margin for error) to the process. If you are willing to train with the external safety to make it second nature...why not double your production and just train trigger safety and trigger pull? Agree to disagree at this point I guess but everyone keeps bashing Im gonna keep defending.

PLMCRZY 01-14-2012 05:13 AM

My sig has no safety doesn't bother me although it does have a hammer. I wouldn't carry the glock either I'd feel unsafe :p


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cougar 01-14-2012 01:15 PM

I don't like Glocks. I prefer Springfield XD (not XDM) series.

J-Pipes 01-14-2012 02:23 PM

First off, I'm not a glock guy at all, they are ugly, and blocky. But, if you want one they work, nobody can argue that, but if u are trying to decide between a glock and a 1911, only one thing needs to be asked. Think about it, whenever a new pistol come out, what is the first gun they compare it to, a 1911, followed by a glock. As for the trigger "issue" if u dont want it to go off keep your damn finger off the trigger, a simple thing that works for all guns. All that being said, all of my auto pistols are 1911. They may have a few more idiosyncrasies to tham, but nobody can argue with there extinguished history.

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gunman41mag 01-14-2012 02:33 PM

Well this guy kept his finger off the trigger, but his glock still fired:scare2:
SAFETY WARNING! Worn Leather Holsters Can Cause Accidental Discharges!

RSWORDS 01-14-2012 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 843333)
Well this guy kept his finger off the trigger, but his glock still fired:scare2:
SAFETY WARNING! Worn Leather Holsters Can Cause Accidental Discharges!

So an idiot using worn out defective equipment, that he admited too, is the guns fault?

Number one reason to buy a glock - It fits you, you like the feel, and you can shoot it accurately.

Number one reason not to buy a glock - It doesn't fit you, you don't like the feel, Nd you can't shoot it accurately.

There are very good guns made by lots of companies. Each one is different, get what ever you feel best with.

I personally like my glock, it fits me well and I shoot it great. I also like the feel of the M&P but I don't shoot it as well in point and shoot situations, the glock points naturally for me.

gunman41mag 01-14-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 843342)
So an idiot using worn out defective equipment, that he admited too, is the guns fault?

Number one reason to buy a glock - It fits you, you like the feel, and you can shoot it accurately.

Number one reason not to buy a glock - It doesn't fit you, you don't like the feel, Nd you can't shoot it accurately.

There are very good guns made by lots of companies. Each one is different, get what ever you feel best with.

I personally like my glock, it fits me well and I shoot it great. I also like the feel of the M&P but I don't shoot it as well in point and shoot situations, the glock points naturally for me.

BOBBY, How you like shooting your 1911:humm:

RSWORDS 01-15-2012 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 843348)
BOBBY, How you like shooting your 1911:humm:

I like it but in natural point of aim shooting I'm still better with my glock. I would not carry a 1911 though, to heavy and lower round count.

Ramprat 01-16-2012 07:53 PM

Guy shoots himself in the leg...with a Kimber Pro Carry 1911....

Funny how a guy shoots himself in the leg with the worlds safest pistol according to gunman..so I guess even the much vaulted 1911 is not a gun for stupid people...


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Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 843508)
I like it but in natural point of aim shooting I'm still better with my glock. I would not carry a 1911 though, to heavy and lower round count.

Heavy...sure, some people thinks so...and you are right...that's why the full sized 1911 is known as a hunk of death..it's not made to be comfortable...but to kill...

As far as round count..3 8rd mags and 1 in the pipe will be more than u ever need, unless your in combat or a mall shooting by 3 or 4 terrorists...then your screwed with just a pistol...

The vast majority of shootings by citizens is something like 2.3 rounds, not even 3 rounds...but if ya feel the need to carry 46+ rounds of ammo...it's heavy...and weighs more than a 1911 :w2::w2:

Seriously, as a citizen in a CCW shooting, you are not running toward the gunfire, but to break contact and disengage alive while protecting loved ones and yourself...

NadirPoint 01-17-2012 07:49 AM

Safety is relative. All guns are inherently dangerous. Can their individual design's danger level be measured? You bet. People are stupid. Something about Darwin or survival of the fittest comes to mind.

Problem is, innocent people can get hurt when firearms come into play.

How's you're appetite for risk taking? Think you are smart enough to handle it? More power to ya!

Didn't we determine that guy with the .45cal hole in his leg to be abnormally stupid last year? I think he could have shot himself with just about anything.

fordornothing 01-21-2012 11:00 PM

i don't know about ou guys but i was tought not to have a round in the chamber if your side arm is holstered. if you do not use all the rounds when you are shooting, then remove mag, eject the round that is still in the chamber and then holster it. same goes with a rifle. do you walk around with a round in the chamber? i know i don't. if these people that shoot them selves in the leg took a saftey class, then alot of these injuries could be prevented.

RanchhandTCR 01-21-2012 11:51 PM

If you carrying for self defensse if you dont have a round chamberd then that time it take to chamber a round can mean your a dead man. Best thing to do is practice and practice and practice by dryfirng. Make sure you have the muscle memory to draw a pistol with out discharging it somwhere other than torwards your intended target you leg, and genitals should not be you intended target. I much preffer revolvers, or thumbsaftey firearms for that purpose. In his case I think he should have done a couple more practice runs before he tried to shoot his target that he coulve punched.

big bad diesel 416 01-22-2012 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by fordornothing (Post 847095)
i don't know about ou guys but i was tought not to have a round in the chamber if your side arm is holstered.

put it this way most times when you have to draw and use your firearm it is with in less that 20ft if a man is charging you with a knife by the time you think i am going to die and need to use deadly force, grab, draw, aim, shoot he may have that blade 2in in your chest

if you have to add in there chamber a round your screwed

i carry 24/7 365 shot lots of rounds never had an accident (thank god)
and i have never carried without one in the pipe like said above at the point that i needed it i would have to use it as a club because i could not get one in the chamber fast enough to use at as a gun

Ramprat 01-22-2012 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by fordornothing (Post 847095)
i don't know about ou guys but i was tought not to have a round in the chamber if your side arm is holstered. if you do not use all the rounds when you are shooting, then remove mag, eject the round that is still in the chamber and then holster it. same goes with a rifle. do you walk around with a round in the chamber? i know i don't. if these people that shoot them selves in the leg took a saftey class, then alot of these injuries could be prevented.

Whoever taught you to carry with a empty chamber hated you and wants to see you dead..

Carrying a pistol with a empty chamber is like going into a 1% biker bar and kissing the biggest dirtiest, nastiest toothless guy and then slipping him some wet tongue...........

NadirPoint 01-23-2012 06:56 AM

Tough crowd. :pca1:

PLMCRZY 01-24-2012 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by fordornothing (Post 847095)
i don't know about ou guys but i was tought not to have a round in the chamber if your side arm is holstered. if you do not use all the rounds when you are shooting, then remove mag, eject the round that is still in the chamber and then holster it. same goes with a rifle. do you walk around with a round in the chamber? i know i don't. if these people that shoot them selves in the leg took a saftey class, then alot of these injuries could be prevented.

You got taught by a tard face. What good is a pistol with no round in the chamber?


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