Wyoming Concealed Carry
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Why would anyone want to open carry anyway? That does not make sense to me.
CC means no one knows you have it, its there for your and your familys protection.
Open carry means "look at me, I have a gun"
Open carry to a bad guy means... "If the shooting starts, take out that guy first."
CC means no one knows you have it, its there for your and your familys protection.
Open carry means "look at me, I have a gun"
Open carry to a bad guy means... "If the shooting starts, take out that guy first."
Also, Idaho's law is that you have to be at least 18 to open carry(no permit needed), but you must be 21 and have a permit to CC. Since the law says I CAN open carry my gun at a minimum age of 18, that means I'm going to carry openly because it allows me to carry, period. Yes, I plan on getting my CC permit, but until then, I'll OC. There are advantages and disadvantages with both methods, just like everything else in life.
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[quote=FordDZLMan9191;790041]Even with that, it means one can OC in WY at 18, not 21 like you previously stated.
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So sue me, I was in a hurry and fingers over took brain....
If you are under 21 it's illegal for you to purchase pistol ammo or a pistol per federal law and you must be 21 to get a concealed carry permit or to legally carry in Wyoming without a permit.
It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile— (A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(2)It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun. (3) This subsection does not apply to—
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—
(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile’s parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except—
(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or
(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile’s parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law from possessing a firearm;
(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile’s possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and
(iv) in accordance with State and local law;
(B) a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;
(C) a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or
(D) the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.
(4) A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.
(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.
(6)
(A) In a prosecution of a violation of this subsection, the court shall require the presence of a juvenile defendant’s parent or legal guardian at all proceedings.
(B) The court may use the contempt power to enforce subparagraph (A).
(C) The court may excuse attendance of a parent or legal guardian of a juvenile defendant at a proceeding in a prosecution of a violation of this subsection for good cause shown.
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Very true....that's why I do not open carry...except on a limited basis
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So sue me, I was in a hurry and fingers over took brain....
If you are under 21 it's illegal for you to purchase pistol ammo or a pistol per federal law and you must be 21 to get a concealed carry permit or to legally carry in Wyoming without a permit.
It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile— (A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(2)It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun. (3) This subsection does not apply to—
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—
(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile’s parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except—
(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or
(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile’s parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law from possessing a firearm;
(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile’s possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and
(iv) in accordance with State and local law;
(B) a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;
(C) a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or
(D) the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.
(4) A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.
(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.
(6)
(A) In a prosecution of a violation of this subsection, the court shall require the presence of a juvenile defendant’s parent or legal guardian at all proceedings.
(B) The court may use the contempt power to enforce subparagraph (A).
(C) The court may excuse attendance of a parent or legal guardian of a juvenile defendant at a proceeding in a prosecution of a violation of this subsection for good cause shown.
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Why would anyone want to open carry anyway? That does not make sense to me.
CC means no one knows you have it, its there for your and your familys protection.
Open carry means "look at me, I have a gun"
Open carry to a bad guy means... "If the shooting starts, take out that guy first."
CC means no one knows you have it, its there for your and your familys protection.
Open carry means "look at me, I have a gun"
Open carry to a bad guy means... "If the shooting starts, take out that guy first."
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We all make mistakes, so chill out. I'm glad that I have you to point out the law to me so I don't get in trouble in Wyoming.
I wonder how they can enforce the "handgun ammo age" thing anymore with the "handgun caliber" carbines...doesn't make sense to me. I'm buying the ammo to put in a rifle. I think that if you can prove that you own a "handgun caliber" rifle, that you should be able to buy the ammo.
Thanks for the info though, seriously.
(2)It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
Thanks for the info though, seriously.
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I wonder how they can enforce the "handgun ammo age" thing anymore with the "handgun caliber" carbines...doesn't make sense to me. I'm buying the ammo to put in a rifle. I think that if you can prove that you own a "handgun caliber" rifle, that you should be able to buy the ammo.
Now I'm sure ya might have a gunshop here and there that sell it if you convince em it's for a rifle....but any big sporting good stores or places like wally world will not sell anybody under 21 any ammo that is chambered in a pistol.
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#27
Ya i understand what your saying. See im 20 and carry. And in the end it doesn;t matter because i dont carry unless in the woods. Although i do have it in my possesion most of the time.....open when im around, concealed when im not. in the vehicle....old man tells me to have it always so dads law will rule because he goes by the thought, have it for if, when you need it, dont worry bout the law. If a person doesn't get caught like i dont by not breakin laws then it really doesnt matter. A case of lawfully maybe no, morally yes.
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yep...you just cant purchase handgun ammo or a handgun..
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Problem is the ATF does not see it that way.....thus when you buy ammo in a caliber for a handgun you get ID'd and if you are under 21 you can't buy it.
Now I'm sure ya might have a gunshop here and there that sell it if you convince em it's for a rifle....but any big sporting good stores or places like wally world will not sell anybody under 21 any ammo that is chambered in a pistol.
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Problem is the ATF does not see it that way.....thus when you buy ammo in a caliber for a handgun you get ID'd and if you are under 21 you can't buy it.
Now I'm sure ya might have a gunshop here and there that sell it if you convince em it's for a rifle....but any big sporting good stores or places like wally world will not sell anybody under 21 any ammo that is chambered in a pistol.
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Ya i understand what your saying. See im 20 and carry. And in the end it doesn;t matter because i dont carry unless in the woods. Although i do have it in my possesion most of the time.....open when im around, concealed when im not. in the vehicle....old man tells me to have it always so dads law will rule because he goes by the thought, have it for if, when you need it, dont worry bout the law. If a person doesn't get caught like i dont by not breakin laws then it really doesnt matter. A case of lawfully maybe no, morally yes.
You just went on the internet and admitted to a federal felony that can get you years in the pound me in the *** prison......Dad's not going to prison...you are...you need to be smart not stupid in what you post....
Cheyenne had a triple shooting/double murder last night according to the news...
Gunman Shoots 3 - KGWN
#30
Wow. that crazy ****. dont happen to often.
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Well from my understandin i thought it was ok to be in the vehicle since im not a juevenile....I will just need to go down to the station and ask. that way i will know for sure
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Dude, you have a lot to learn....
You just went on the internet and admitted to a federal felony that can get you years in the pound me in the *** prison......Dad's not going to prison...you are...you need to be smart not stupid in what you post....
Cheyenne had a triple shooting/double murder last night according to the news...
You just went on the internet and admitted to a federal felony that can get you years in the pound me in the *** prison......Dad's not going to prison...you are...you need to be smart not stupid in what you post....
Cheyenne had a triple shooting/double murder last night according to the news...
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