Last weekend at the gun show the dude was showing me a Russian made ak. He said it was one of the best i think it was $600 or $700 for a basic model.

Im going to another show tmrw so maybe they will have it. After i build my shotgun a rifle is next:jump:

Hell no... I said I can build it for that. Not sell it. :D Thats why new converted s12's sell for $1,000. I'm not saying his stuff is bad, Its very well made and is possibly the best. Beats buying a bottom barrel gun some minimum wage idiot put together. But you can build one as good as his yourself for less, I understand that things like overhead, wages and profit will always drive up prices.... But $1,200 mark up is a little much I think.

I found ways to fix the mag wobble, welding in a shim, and I could do that very easily. If I can't fix the canted sights, I know someone that probably can. I'm kind of looking at these the same way I would look at a truck. It needs this, this and this, ok, I can probably fix it and if I can't, I know someone who can.

I'm willing to put a little work into something if it means getting it cheaper. If I had a bigger budget for this right now, I'd be going AR shopping, not AK shopping. I really want an AR but I want to build it piece by piece so that's a long ways down the road.

I know Century offers a 100% US made AK that they call the Centurion 39. They say it has absolutely no imported parts and it comes with 2 Tapco 30 rounders. Its got a milled receiver, hi-vis front sight post, longer buttstock, and the fore grip has molded in Picatinny rails. No idea what the price tag on it is though.

Sure Krebs are nice but about the only thing I like on them is the safety lever mod he puts on. I can buy most of the other parts and put them on myself, not the same quality, but still... For the price, I'd buy an AR.

Like I said, I'm planning on going to a gun show next weekend. I called my gun shop today and they quoted for a standard WASR 10 with wood furniture started at $470! :scare2: $500 after taxes.

Think I can find one cheaper than that at the gun show? Or if that's the general price for them now, what's a better AK option for about the same price? The number of variants out there boggle my mind and I can't keep straight what's what except that WASRs are bottom of the barrel and Arsenals and Krebs are about the top of the line.

I buy my guns from gunbroker, auction arms, & guns america

The problem I have with buying guns online(at least ones I'm looking at right now) is that I can't handle the guns and hand pick the one I want. I could've bought my Mosin 91/30 online for like $70, but I wanted to personally check it out so I went to the gun store and paid $100. Same thing with these WASRs. I want to hand pick it because of the possible issues with them. If I was shopping for a brand new AR or something like that, then yeah, I'd probably buy online and deal with shipping and FFL transfer.

I know what your saying, nothing like being able to touch it & see it:humm:

That's a good train of thought. I usually wont buy a used gun sight unseen either. A new gun ill order from the cheapest Guy.