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FordDZLMan9191 05-26-2011 10:42 PM

Centruy AKs
 
Does anyone here have a Century Arms AK47 or have any experience with them?

Last weekend I shot a buddies SKS and decided that I like the 7.62x39 round:tu:. I'd rather get an AK over an SKS though. So I've been doing hours of research to see what all I could find(good and bad) about Century's WASR 10 AKs. I've heard lots of people say they are piles of shit with canted sights, horrible mag wobble, unreliable, and whatever else, but from what I've seen on youtube and other forums, people that actually own them and have the ability to fix the issues, seem to like them and they seem to be just as reliable as any other AK in the world.

I'm just going to use it for having fun with and possibly and end-of-the-world-zombie defense rifle:scare2: :gunner: There's a gun show near me next weekend that I'm going to try to go to, plus I'm gonna call my gun shop that I like to go to and see what they're price on one is first.

Just looking for some opinions...:humm:

gunman41mag 05-27-2011 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by FordDZLMan9191 (Post 757917)
Does anyone here have a Century Arms AK47 or have any experience with them?

Last weekend I shot a buddies SKS and decided that I like the 7.62x39 round:tu:. I'd rather get an AK over an SKS though. So I've been doing hours of research to see what all I could find(good and bad) about Century's WASR 10 AKs. I've heard lots of people say they are piles of shit with canted sights, horrible mag wobble, unreliable, and whatever else, but from what I've seen on youtube and other forums, people that actually own them and have the ability to fix the issues, seem to like them and they seem to be just as reliable as any other AK in the world.

I'm just going to use it for having fun with and possibly and end-of-the-world-zombie defense rifle:scare2: :gunner: There's a gun show near me next weekend that I'm going to try to go to, plus I'm gonna call my gun shop that I like to go to and see what they're price on one is first.

Just looking for some opinions...:humm:

I had a CENTURY AK-47, it shot good & didn't jam, but I've heard story about century guns that weren't good:humm:

FordDZLMan9191 05-27-2011 07:29 AM

I've heard stories too. As long as it goes bang and hits what I'm aiming at every time I pull the trigger, its a good gun in my book. Just hoping someone had some experience with them and could tell me whether its worth spending the money on one or just get something else...

dieseldude03 05-27-2011 10:30 AM

I have experience with a Century SAR-1, the predecessor to the WASR-10. The ATF pulled the plug on the SAR-1 being imported because it was a good rifle.:s:
Basically, the SAR-1 is everything the WASR wishes it was. I can attest to the canted sights and wobbly mag in the WASR (my buddy had one) but it went bang every time the trigger was pulled.
The WASR actually uses a single-stack mag when it's made. Century then hogs-out the mag well to accommodate the much more common double-stack mags, which is where the wobble comes from.
Look on Century's website. Century International Arms They offer MANY more choices other than the wasr. The other models will cost a bit more then a WASR-10 but are a better rifle.

RSWORDS 05-27-2011 01:11 PM

It's a bottom of teh barrel AK... But with that said, its a fucking AK.... Really kinda hard to fuck it up. :D

Funny this thread is on here today, I am just putting the final touches on my weld build AK today.

gunman41mag 05-27-2011 02:06 PM

I want to get a KREBS AK-47 Welcome to Krebs Custom - Custom Rifles

RSWORDS 05-27-2011 02:41 PM

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Martin.... If you pay that for an AK47 I'm gonna drive to Florida and kick your ass myself...

Why no build one your self from a parts kit? Or if you want brand new buy a Saiga 7.62 and convert it.

$200 parts kit... $60 reciever... Little grinder and welder time.

Started like this, demilled number matching Rommy-G made in 1981

Attachment 41637

Need to get the trigger group in, function check it, shoot it, then pull it apart and finish the metal and wood.

Attachment 41638

If your one of the purist types (which looking at the link above your not :D ) you can rivet it or screw it.

Plus the thrill of building your own gun is GREAT.

If you want to get REAL fancy you can buy a flat receiver. Its only 80% finished, you bend it and finish it off yourself. Since it is legal to make your own firearm for personal use you would have non-registered gun that legal to have. You wont ever be able to sell it though.

gunman41mag 05-27-2011 03:08 PM

Krebs also has SAIGA 12 GAUGE Welcome to Krebs Custom - The Ultimate Expression of System Kalashnikov
Krebs is a bragging AK-47, I'm not handy with tools,:nope:

RSWORDS 05-27-2011 03:11 PM

I understand the Kreb is top the line and are VERY nice. Mark Kreb knows the AK inside and out like no one else does... But its still and AK.... I just could not bring myself to spend that much on an AK.

That S12 is an even bigger rip off.... :argh:

The AK build takes some skill (kinda). But a Saiga conversion can be done by a blind monkey.... Anyone paying $2,000 for a saiga is a complete and total moron. I could build 3 for that.... I have $700 in mine and have ALOT nicer parts then they are using according to the discription.

gunman41mag 05-27-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 758118)
I understand the Kreb is top the line and are VERY nice. Mark Kreb knows the AK inside and out like no one else does... But its still and AK.... I just could not bring myself to spend that much on an AK.

That S12 is an even bigger rip off.... :argh:

The AK build takes some skill (kinda). But a Saiga conversion can be done by a blind monkey.... Anyone paying $2,000 for a saiga is a complete and total moron. I could build 3 for that.... I have $700 in mine and have ALOT nicer parts then they are using according to the discription.

So MARK KREB is laughing all the way to the B A N K:s: His rifles & shotguns are crazy expensive:scare2: You should start your own business BOBBY:tu:

PLMCRZY 05-27-2011 03:45 PM

Last weekend at the gun show the dude was showing me a Russian made ak. He said it was one of the best i think it was $600 or $700 for a basic model.

Im going to another show tmrw so maybe they will have it. After i build my shotgun a rifle is next:jump:

RSWORDS 05-27-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 758124)
So MARK KREB is laughing all the way to the B A N K:s: His rifles & shotguns are crazy expensive:scare2: You should start your own business BOBBY:tu:

Hell no... I said I can build it for that. Not sell it. :D Thats why new converted s12's sell for $1,000. I'm not saying his stuff is bad, Its very well made and is possibly the best. Beats buying a bottom barrel gun some minimum wage idiot put together. But you can build one as good as his yourself for less, I understand that things like overhead, wages and profit will always drive up prices.... But $1,200 mark up is a little much I think.

FordDZLMan9191 05-27-2011 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by dieseldude03 (Post 758028)
I have experience with a Century SAR-1, the predecessor to the WASR-10. The ATF pulled the plug on the SAR-1 being imported because it was a good rifle.:s:
Basically, the SAR-1 is everything the WASR wishes it was. I can attest to the canted sights and wobbly mag in the WASR (my buddy had one) but it went bang every time the trigger was pulled.
The WASR actually uses a single-stack mag when it's made. Century then hogs-out the mag well to accommodate the much more common double-stack mags, which is where the wobble comes from.
Look on Century's website. Century International Arms They offer MANY more choices other than the wasr. The other models will cost a bit more then a WASR-10 but are a better rifle.

I found ways to fix the mag wobble, welding in a shim, and I could do that very easily. If I can't fix the canted sights, I know someone that probably can. I'm kind of looking at these the same way I would look at a truck. It needs this, this and this, ok, I can probably fix it and if I can't, I know someone who can.

I'm willing to put a little work into something if it means getting it cheaper. If I had a bigger budget for this right now, I'd be going AR shopping, not AK shopping. I really want an AR but I want to build it piece by piece so that's a long ways down the road.

I know Century offers a 100% US made AK that they call the Centurion 39. They say it has absolutely no imported parts and it comes with 2 Tapco 30 rounders. Its got a milled receiver, hi-vis front sight post, longer buttstock, and the fore grip has molded in Picatinny rails. No idea what the price tag on it is though.

Sure Krebs are nice but about the only thing I like on them is the safety lever mod he puts on. I can buy most of the other parts and put them on myself, not the same quality, but still... For the price, I'd buy an AR.

Like I said, I'm planning on going to a gun show next weekend. I called my gun shop today and they quoted for a standard WASR 10 with wood furniture started at $470! :scare2: $500 after taxes.

Think I can find one cheaper than that at the gun show? Or if that's the general price for them now, what's a better AK option for about the same price? The number of variants out there boggle my mind and I can't keep straight what's what except that WASRs are bottom of the barrel and Arsenals and Krebs are about the top of the line.

gunman41mag 05-28-2011 01:57 AM

I buy my guns from gunbroker, auction arms, & guns america

FordDZLMan9191 05-28-2011 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 758288)
I buy my guns from gunbroker, auction arms, & guns america

The problem I have with buying guns online(at least ones I'm looking at right now) is that I can't handle the guns and hand pick the one I want. I could've bought my Mosin 91/30 online for like $70, but I wanted to personally check it out so I went to the gun store and paid $100. Same thing with these WASRs. I want to hand pick it because of the possible issues with them. If I was shopping for a brand new AR or something like that, then yeah, I'd probably buy online and deal with shipping and FFL transfer.

gunman41mag 05-28-2011 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by FordDZLMan9191 (Post 758292)
The problem I have with buying guns online(at least ones I'm looking at right now) is that I can't handle the guns and hand pick the one I want. I could've bought my Mosin 91/30 online for like $70, but I wanted to personally check it out so I went to the gun store and paid $100. Same thing with these WASRs. I want to hand pick it because of the possible issues with them. If I was shopping for a brand new AR or something like that, then yeah, I'd probably buy online and deal with shipping and FFL transfer.

I know what your saying, nothing like being able to touch it & see it:humm:

RSWORDS 05-28-2011 09:22 AM

That's a good train of thought. I usually wont buy a used gun sight unseen either. A new gun ill order from the cheapest Guy.


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