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Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 753793)

I have No problems with the mags. They hang straight down. You can also use the factory 5 round or buy a 8 rounder. I

I was just saying that I personally would probably have trouble with them. Others may not, like you.

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Originally Posted by FordDZLMan9191 (Post 753777)

I see your guys points on the "warning rack" and other than being down one round, I hadn't thought of most of them. I have an extended mag tube on my 870 so having it chamber empty still leaves me with 7 rounds. Now that my sisters kids aren't running around my house anymore, I keep my 870 and my XD fully loaded with one in the chamber. My XD sits on my nightstand at night because its easier for me to get around the house with. My 870 still has the 28" hunting barrel on it, and with the way my house is setup, I come out of my room and there's the front door. Even with my adjustable stock in the shortest length, its still too long. That's why I practice with my pistol every chance I get.

PLMCRZY, have you thought about getting a concealed weapons permit and carrying a pistol? Then you'd have something on you at all times if/when you needed it.

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Saigas are pretty neat but the only thing I can see having a problem with in a HD situation is the size of those mags, they're huge. I know that if I didn't run around my house and train with, I'd be catching it on all kinda of stuff. Yes, I realize that the 12ga shotshell if a big round but I think you'd be better off with a tube fed gun with a tube extension. Depending on the gun and extension size, 7-9 rounds of 00 buck should be plenty. Just my .02

But if you're all for capacity and a short overall length for a HD gun, you can't beat the 7+7+1 round count of the new Kel-Tec KSG.

I wouldn't buy a KEL-TEC,:nope: I've had plenty of problems with them:bat:

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Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 753796)

I wouldn't buy a KEL-TEC,:nope: I've had plenty of problems with them:bat:

Not trying to be rude or anything but, I think we're well aware of this fact.

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Originally Posted by FordDZLMan9191 (Post 753795)

I was just saying that I personally would probably have trouble with them. Others may not, like you.

I know you were. :U:

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Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 753666)

That AA-12 is awesome, it has almost no lift when you shoot it:tu:

While a great gun it has some issues I don't like.

The first being its slow rate of fire, the S12 has a much faster rate of fire in auto. I can fire my S12 in semi as fast as a AA 12 fires in full auto.

Saiga 12 Semi-Auto

vs

Saiga 12 Full Auto

vs

AA12 Full Auto

The auto saiga dumped 20 rnds in ~2 seconds, the AA12 in ~4-5 seconds.

The second being that it fires from an open bolt. That can be a issue with mud, water, dirt, ect.

Finally, its got ALOT of parts.... ALOT....

I would still buy one if we were allowed to have them... :D

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Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 753590)

Could you point me to a site i can get some price quotes? Thats basically what i want. I also like the mossberg "cruiser". I have thought about turning my .410 into a home protection shotty but i want a little more.

Getting harder and harder to find. The ATF has a temp importation ban on them. Alot of people have jacked the price way up... You can try...

gunbroker.com
here is teh exact gun I bought.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=229434988

or

http://www.tac47industries.com/produ...roduct_id=2343

or

Rifles & Shotguns from...

or some sites have them, you have to convert it your self if you want the pistol grips and what not, easy as hell.

If you could afford it, they make small 870 shotguns now, 12 in barrels with pistol grips, must pay a federal tax stamp and pass a class 3 weapons check but itd be worth it

I do not have my concealed license, i dont know if i should really have one anyways. I carry a knife at all times. But they dont do good in a gun fight haha.

$900 for a saiga! Thats alot! I think i will start out with something cheaper.

Mossberg 500 cruiser NIB : Pump at GunBroker.com

This is in my price range and i could mod it to how i like it, correct?

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Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 753930)

B E N E L L I :jump:M1 SUPER 90

You can buy a brand new 500 for $250 if you look around. Used 500's can be hadfor sub $150.