Conceal carry - Sig Sauer
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If you're weapon is taken from you, you're either:
A) Too close
B) In deep crap and have not well prepared.
I teach weapon retention. I realize there may be a situation where you're caught off guard and forced to give up your weapon. In that case, you have a much bigger issue to concern yourself with.
Otherwise, you should never lose your weapon.
or if a child finds your gun,
If you're going to be away from your weapon, make sure one or more of them are in force.
If for example, the weapon is in the glove box/console, and you're away from it and the child...remove it, unload it, lock it or otherwise make it safe!
you're gonna wish you had a S A F E T Y
The last was a S & W product (agency assigned).
The only either of them ever discharged, was when I pulled the trigger
I raised two (2) children and now have a 4 1/2 year old live in grandaughter.
Weapons are still here.
If you prefer a manual safety, and if it makes you feel safer, then by all means, get one with a manual safety.
It's just one more step you'll need to train yourself to do automatically.
Discussions over manual safeties are always an interesting topic.
I've seen both sides as a professional and professional instructor.
I've seen the occasion where, as Gunman implies, the safety has given a person or an officer, that valuable second or so to react. If the person using the weapon on you has not idea what's wrong, the "shock" and time lag alone, will give you an "eternity" to react
On the other hand, I've seen far too many instances where "trained" veteran law enforcement and military personnel, in a high stress action, failed to remove the safety.
Occasionally with dreadful results
As for the Sig in general, one day I'll own another!
Great weapons, well made, durable and dependable
IMO, FWIW...find one that fits and go for it
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big bad diesel 416 (11-15-2010)
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To the OP, I can't really help you on a Sig. I was looking at them too but they were a bit out of my price range when I was shopping for my gun. I was looking at the P250 though.
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I have a Sig P229 and a Sig P239. The P239 is more suited for concealed carry due to my skinny frame.
During the winter months I can carry the P229 in a shoulder holster. It is a bit bigger than the P239. I really like them both. Both are comfortable and have been very reliable, going on 15 years with the P229 and 7 with the P239.
My P229 can shoot 9mm, 357 Sig and 40 cal rounds.
My P239 only takes 357 Sig and 40 cal. I don't have the 9mm barrel and spring for it.
Good Luck with your decision.
During the winter months I can carry the P229 in a shoulder holster. It is a bit bigger than the P239. I really like them both. Both are comfortable and have been very reliable, going on 15 years with the P229 and 7 with the P239.
My P229 can shoot 9mm, 357 Sig and 40 cal rounds.
My P239 only takes 357 Sig and 40 cal. I don't have the 9mm barrel and spring for it.
Good Luck with your decision.
got a pic by chance?
and I am a big ole fat guy (280 lbs 6,2)
so I got lots of places to hide
I really want the 40 cal in ca we can only carry 10 rds a 45 mag will only hold 8 (with one chambered) the 40's hold 10 and one chambered best of my knowledge and a 9mm is a shitty round IMO I have a S&W highway patrolman's special 357 6 shot but its huge
I would also like a full composite gun metal is to dam cold and heavy I will be working hunting shopping playing all with this new gun so it has to be right there is no "try it before you buy it" here
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It's easier to conceal a single stack magazine than a double stack magazine when it comes to concealing pistols. The bulk of the pistol grip is the hardest part to conceal...the easiest is the barrel, especially when you conceal IWB....
The belt is a major player, you need to wear a properly fitting belt, one that is designed to carry/support the weight of a pistol and mags, otherwise you are just screwed and will never have much luck concealing a pistol.
Gun Belts by The Belt Man makes superb leather belts are a really reasonable price.
Tactical Gear, Tactical Equipment, Duty Belts, Slings, USA 5 stitch belts are good, not top of the line, but dang good belts.
I've got one of these belts on order.... Cobra Shooters Belt 1.75" (CSB-175) it's among the best of the best you will ever get for a gunbelt....
My Springer in a Comp-Tac holster...was extremly comfortable but not exactly what I wanted, the belt pulled the kydex into the leather a tad to much making one handed holstering a pain, and after running 2x2x2 drills I gave up and got a CTAC from Comp-Tac and love it, sorry no pictures, it's just like the CTAC pictured below, except for a 1911.
Sig P239R/TLR-1 in 357 Sig...in a Raven Concealment belt holster, superb holster, but not a IWB pistol by any means & RC make some of the very best Kydex holsters ya will ever get...
Sig 239 in 357sig...in a Comp-Tac CTAC, love this holster, it's a superb concealment holster, comfortable for 16+ hours....have worn both the Sig 239 for 16+ hours and the Springfield 1911 for 15+ hours in the CTAC's and actually forgot I was carrying the 1911...
Mummm, grilled Chicken strips......
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This is a HUGE fallacy....the current 9mm ammo with a premium JHP bullet is just as effective at putting down a goblin as the 45ACP and the 40S&W are.
It's way more about the shooter & his/her skills than it is the caliber any more as long as you are shooting a premium JHP that your gun shoots accurately....
Unless ya are talking about the 25acp, the 380 and other pop guns....those are a joke...and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick does more damage....
The belt is a major player, you need to wear a properly fitting belt, one that is designed to carry/support the weight of a pistol and mags, otherwise you are just screwed and will never have much luck concealing a pistol.
Gun Belts by The Belt Man makes superb leather belts are a really reasonable price.
Tactical Gear, Tactical Equipment, Duty Belts, Slings, USA 5 stitch belts are good, not top of the line, but dang good belts.
I've got one of these belts on order.... Cobra Shooters Belt 1.75" (CSB-175) it's among the best of the best you will ever get for a gunbelt....
My Springer in a Comp-Tac holster...was extremly comfortable but not exactly what I wanted, the belt pulled the kydex into the leather a tad to much making one handed holstering a pain, and after running 2x2x2 drills I gave up and got a CTAC from Comp-Tac and love it, sorry no pictures, it's just like the CTAC pictured below, except for a 1911.
Sig P239R/TLR-1 in 357 Sig...in a Raven Concealment belt holster, superb holster, but not a IWB pistol by any means & RC make some of the very best Kydex holsters ya will ever get...
Sig 239 in 357sig...in a Comp-Tac CTAC, love this holster, it's a superb concealment holster, comfortable for 16+ hours....have worn both the Sig 239 for 16+ hours and the Springfield 1911 for 15+ hours in the CTAC's and actually forgot I was carrying the 1911...
Mummm, grilled Chicken strips......
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This is a HUGE fallacy....the current 9mm ammo with a premium JHP bullet is just as effective at putting down a goblin as the 45ACP and the 40S&W are.
It's way more about the shooter & his/her skills than it is the caliber any more as long as you are shooting a premium JHP that your gun shoots accurately....
Unless ya are talking about the 25acp, the 380 and other pop guns....those are a joke...and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick does more damage....
Last edited by Ramprat; 11-16-2010 at 01:11 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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This is a HUGE fallacy....the current 9mm ammo with a premium JHP bullet is just as effective at putting down a goblin as the 45ACP and the 40S&W are.
It's way more about the shooter & his/her skills than it is the caliber any more as long as you are shooting a premium JHP that your gun shoots accurately....
Unless ya are talking about the 25acp, the 380 and other pop guns....those are a joke...and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick does more damage....
It's way more about the shooter & his/her skills than it is the caliber any more as long as you are shooting a premium JHP that your gun shoots accurately....
Unless ya are talking about the 25acp, the 380 and other pop guns....those are a joke...and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick does more damage....
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No joke
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This is a HUGE fallacy....the current 9mm ammo with a premium JHP bullet is just as effective at putting down a goblin as the 45ACP and the 40S&W are.
It's way more about the shooter & his/her skills than it is the caliber any more as long as you are shooting a premium JHP that your gun shoots accurately....
Unless ya are talking about the 25acp, the 380 and other pop guns....those are a joke...and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick does more damage....
maybe I just cant shoot
Its been years since I have shot a 9mm
Last edited by big bad diesel 416; 11-16-2010 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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But for me to poke you in the eye with that sharp stick you would need to be right up and close....that's actually further than the effective range of a 25 auto.....
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big bad diesel 416 (11-16-2010)