Interesting opinion on concealed carry handgun calibers.
#22
03-06-2010, 09:23 PM
Diesel Bomber
Who is the author, the information is extremly subjective and feel good-isms from the point of the author. It's not a fact based article and full of lots of 1/2 truths and falsehoods that might get somebody hurt if they actually listened to what he said...
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#23
03-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Yeah, I know nothing about guns but I've heard those opinions many times before so they couldn't be too original or insightful.
#24
03-06-2010, 09:34 PM
I carry a .40 S&W
I have a buddy thats a detective in a city close by, was on SWAT befor he got into training. The dept switched to .40 from 9mm because they kept filling people messed up on meth full of 9mm and they would keep shooting back. The whole shoot them in teh head argument is great... If your target is standing still. In the real world you shoot center of mass, while they are moving around and shooting back your only shot at a head shot is by pure luck.
Its not the hole that kills em... Its all the **** the bullet tears up and teh shock wave it send through the body.
I have a buddy thats a detective in a city close by, was on SWAT befor he got into training. The dept switched to .40 from 9mm because they kept filling people messed up on meth full of 9mm and they would keep shooting back. The whole shoot them in teh head argument is great... If your target is standing still. In the real world you shoot center of mass, while they are moving around and shooting back your only shot at a head shot is by pure luck.
Its not the hole that kills em... Its all the **** the bullet tears up and teh shock wave it send through the body.
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#26
03-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Diesel Bomber
Understand this: Handguns are woefully inadequate in their stopping power as compared to a shotgun or rifle. So why do we carry handguns? Because we can! They are small enough to always have on our person for an emergency and they allow us to immediately respond in a defensive manner. (If you know you are going to a gunfight don’t be an idiot with a handgun -- take a shotgun or rifle.)
Knowing that handguns are inadequate in terms of stopping power as compared to a shotgun or rifle should lead you to want to carry the biggest handgun that you can readily conceal, in the biggest caliber, with the heaviest bullet loaded as hot as you can handle it to deliver a couple of quick shots to the thoracic cavity or a single round to the cranio-ocular cavity of an extremely dedicated opponent.
25 is worthless as is the 32, the 380 is marginal as is the 22
If your carry gun is one of the smaller lighter calibers that is OK. You just need to understand that you must train that much more with a short sight radius, pocket pistol to be able to deliver fight stopping multiple rounds to your opponent’s head than you would if you were carrying a 1911 in .45 or a Glock in .40 caliber and delivering two shots to the chest.
Ummmmmm okay, playing puff puff pass again, full of fail and 1/2 truths....
Ever tie a balloon to a branch of a brush and then shoot at it at 7-15 yards...in a wind or a stiff wind as it's bobbing and weaving....
Please stay away from fragmenting bullets. Those bullets that are designed to prevent over penetration will get you killed. You WANT penetration. Because even the hottest handgun bullet is slow and mediocre compared to a rifle, you need all the penetration you can get. You want the greatest amount of linear tissue damage possible for the best chance of incapacitation (immediately dropping your opponent). You want penetration. Penetration is your friend.
So why not a .44 Magnum, .50AE, 10mm. etc? Because these guns require bigger frames due to greater chamber pressure generated and larger cartridge size, they tend to be very hard to conceal. These big guns, although they have slightly better stopping power than the .45 and .40, do so at the expense of portability, recoil control and practical use.
#28
03-06-2010, 09:45 PM
Diesel Bomber
I have a buddy thats a detective in a city close by, was on SWAT befor he got into training. The dept switched to .40 from 9mm because they kept filling people messed up on meth full of 9mm and they would keep shooting back. The whole shoot them in teh head argument is great... If your target is standing still. In the real world you shoot center of mass, while they are moving around and shooting back your only shot at a head shot is by pure luck.
I'll take a Glock 19 9mm any day over a 40 short and weak & will have no problem dealing with meth heads....
#30
03-06-2010, 09:47 PM
Diesel Bomber
Now if the gun is just to heavy, then you need to go to the gym....
I carry a full sized Springfield TRP 45 in a MTAC holster on a wilderness 5 stitch belt with 2 spare magazines for 12-16+ hours and it's not to heavy....
