Best Shotguns for home defense.
 

As many of you know, I live right on top of 3 businesses. I've been looking at pistols and shotguns.
I'm looking for somthing reliable, with a full choke, (Dont wana accidently hurt someone or blow buckshot through the walls anymore than needed if the situation arises that I need to use it)
I've looked at the 870 remington's, A couple benelli's and some other random stuff.

Any opinions on the best for this type of use? I'm also going on a budget, I like the Benelli's but geeeze their high!

mossburg has a cheap riot gun

i have a remington 870 express 12 gauge.... it wont jam as long as you put some rem oil in it somtime before you use it... other wise after about 20 shells you wont be able to pump the gun... idk if your gonna need to shoot more then 20 guys but who knows... gotta be prepared!!! haha

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I would get a pistol. Go shoot it a lot and get familiar with it. No matter what you get. Make sure you shoot it quite often so if you needed to shoot in an emergency there's less of a chance of an accident.

if i approach a shadowy figure in my house , i dont want a pistol in my hand ...give me a shotgun any day

Im with DM...

Shotgun all the way (but I am not gun expert by any means...just my uneducated opinion).

I guess you don't shoot enough. I know my guns...every one of them and the shotguns are just for hunting for me because I shoot my pistol enough to be confident. Besides get some bird shot for the pistol if you want the shotgun effect. On a side note...which type of gun can be concealed better?

Why would you ever need concealment for home defense?

If your lookin to a shotgun for in home defense you better be the only one in the house that you don't want hit. Collateral damage is at best substantial if you ever have to use it. buckshot will pass through interior walls with ease and deflection/ricochet is a problem. This is why law enforcement prefer certain calibers in handguns that tend to flatten out on impact and provide knockdown power more then penetration and pass through shots.

If you still feel the need to use a shotgun the best option is some type of riot control shells that will take the any thing alive off it's feet without all the collateral damage or being lethal to any innocents in the way, slugs or 00 buckshot. At least this way you will have some control over what is hit.

REMINGTON 870!!!!! DONT GET ANYTHING ELSE!!! Load the first round with bird shot, the rest with buck. If someone is in you house and doesnt respond to 1. the sound of the shotgun cocking or the first round you shoot at them, the deserve the buckshot. At that point, you wont be firing wildly into the night, which MIGHT happen if you fire the first round. :bat:

The other option you have is the Taurus Judge. It fires 410 shotgun rounds. Seems badass, but a 410 wont really hurt anyone at anything but close up, but in a dark bedroom, squeeze of one round or two with bird shot, it wont matter if you shoot them or not, it will get their attention. Also fires .45 slugs:bat:

I keep a Browning Auto 5 and a 9mm within reach when I sleep, I can tell you this he will not be around to sue me because I have altered his way of life!:bat:

Use a salt rock load instead of buckshot, lol.

I'm really thankfull of all these post,
The rock salt seems Like a great idea, I REALLY like the idea of a non lethal option, Hopefully i would have control of the situation before I had to use it but isnt it in NC that if their not armed you cant shoot to kill? Even if their in your house?

BUT I also really like the Idea of the Judge.....Thats so awesome.

If your looking for a good cheap home defence gun its hard to beat a Mossberg 500 with pistol grips.

38 Special works nice for home defence.

I was just trying to keep you and bobby out of my house.....:bat:

:yeah:

The more I look at the judge the more i like it

:humm:


I also like my Ruger Colt 45 but thats a bit much for Home Defence.

The BW AA-12 seem's more my thing...

that should work for them :D

Mossberg Model 500A

Remington 870


6 of one, half dozen of the other....both fine weapons for home defense with the 18 3/4" barrel option.

Mossberg's safety is on top of the receiver. Remington's safety is a slide lock by the trigger housing.

Some prefer the Mossberg safety over the Remington safety for home defense/panic situations, but again, user preference.

Both shotguns have excellent military, law enforcement, and civilian use track records. Both are inexpensive to buy, maintain, and repair. Both have a multitude of aftermarket hop-ups available to them.

There are other fine shotguns out there, but for the money you can't argue with either of the above.

If that is a law that sucks for you, because in Ohio if there in your house you can shoot to kill and believe me if that moment ever comes i dont want them to be able to sue me for shooting them and wounding them...

The 12 guage with 00 isnt going to mame anybody its gonna do what it was designed for:w2:

any kind of pump for me. like a 870

I agree on pump shotgun, anyone who doesn't belong in my house ain't going to get a chance to tell my why he's there. Field load and then some high brass copper 4's or 6's. I would think the sound of a shotgun pumping would raise the hair on anyones neck if was still alive after the first shot. I don't even know what brand mine is but the barrels 18 and a half inches sawed off and the total length is 28 inches.

Sawed off at 18 1/2 inches with 4 or 6's, your gonna be lucky if more then a few pellets hit any one target that's more then a few feet away from ya. Your gonna have a pattern spread out over a 20 ft area after the first 15 feet.

All this goin into a building and then cockin that firearm may look cool in the movies for the affect but I can promise ya that when I have gone in I'm locked and loaded long before that entry way is ever opened up.

Mossberg 500A full choke buckshot... they pop'em we drop'em.. lol

We always had the Winchester model 1200's for this stuff. Nice to carry cause they are light but mother do they kick with slugs.

I used to get all worried about posting pictures of my toys for all to see, but here lately I just don't care.

Go ahead, try and take them. I'll give you a 5 second head start.

A couple of my babies...

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[QUOTE=mysterync;390994] I REALLY like the idea of a non lethal option,
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if they are alive, they can sue you

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isnt it in NC that if their not armed you cant shoot to kill? Even if their in your house?
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EVERYWHERE it is law that you cant shoot to kill if your life isnt being threatened. There are ways around that though, but to discuss them would be self incriminating. Well, everywhere but maybe texas:ok1:


If you are trying to "defend" yourself, I don't see wounding as an option. If the intruder lives, he can come back for revenge. With kids in the house or businesses below you, a smaller calliber weapon might be a better option. light load shot or hollow points would be a better choice. But there are few things more terrifying than a shotgun firing in a small room.

Any weapon you use will be fine. Don't play around with bird shot and stuff like that.

Any intruder has made his choice already, so why play around?:bat:

Install a heavy light like surefire to blind that crap in your home, as you can see in the pics above.
More important: Train your family what to do in such a situation. Do you remember: duck and cover?

In a house where a bullet/slugs will go through 6 sheets of drywall, why put anyone else at risk? Statistically speaking, you are NOT going to hit whatever you are shooting at with the first shot anyways when you awake to find someone going through your sock drawer and grab and fire a shot out of your shotgun/pistol/alarm clock. If you are convinced you will, you have probaly never been in that situation and are just talking macho. So if the guy runs out, you shoot low and nail your daughter in the head because you missed the bad guy as he slid out the door cause you shot too low, you gonna let us say "told you so? In a house, unless you are shooting across your unfinished basement, bird shot will still knock someone down long enough to chamber the next round of buckshot before they can regather their thoughs.

I have a Winchester Defender that is loaded with 2 3/4 so I can jam 8 rounds in it. The first is 00 buck and then 1 oz slugs alternately. It is mostly taken with us for the hauler when we're camping to ward off any grizzlies that think our stuff is theirs or for the whacko who decides it's a good idea to try to terrorize someone. It will penetrate the house and go through numerous rooms which is not a good thing for my family. For home defense though I usually have one of my Glocks, usually the 17 with 17 rounds of hollow point 147 gr loaded up with a 150 lumen light/laser combo. I'm very consistent with my Glock pistols and confident that it would be more than sufficient. Problem I have is three boys in the house ages 9, 6 and 4. I have to keep everything locked in the safes. They are electronic touch pads so they are pretty quick to get into and then the main one has Ak's ready to rock along with some AR's etc and my bugout bag which is loaded at all times and ready to vacate. I keep the pistol at my side each night and then either carry it that day or swap it out with another pistol each morning. I have a CCW which I exercise ever day. In MT you can shoot to kill if you or your family or possessions are in danger in your house or on your property. I recommend shooting to kill. No fuss no muss.

@Jonny:
1. We have solid concrete walls.
2. I have the advantage of knowing my house.
3. Breaking in makes noise. Yes, we have an additional alarm installed.reson below:
4. We have had strange "visitors"- reason for the alarm.
5. I'm living on the countryside. No neighbours.
6. Police takes half an hour to arrive, if station is armed...
7. I'm trained to shoot for 15 years by profession( Hammelburg trained):pca1: Wearing also uniform, just a different camo:w2:

If you cant hit your target on teh 1st shot you should not shoot the gun.

You dont have to keep me out... Your old lady comes to me... :D

I was wondering where she was last night when steph came over :humm::howdy:

i skimmed the thread here but whatever you get make sure it is a pump. nothing is a more distinguishable sound as a shotgun going into battery. i keep my Maverick (Mossberg's cheap line) in "stock box" condition. full magazine of buckshot, NOTHING in the chamber with the safety off and the firing pin in the rest position (ie pull the trigger and dry fire it and leave it there) that way you don't have to push any lever to allow the pump action to work. therefore it isn't loaded until you want it to be.

also i like the Maverick, Mossberg because of the placement of that lever. on Remingtons you almost have to remove your hand from the trigger to depress the lever. on a maverick it is at the back of the trigger guard unlike the Remington that is at the front if the guard.

just my personal opinion

I like the idea of a wide pattern, I want the whole hallway covered if someone doesn't belong in it. Those double X copper magnums are some bad sob's, I've seen turkeys and pheasants dropped along ways off with them and I'm only asking for 70 feet max out of them. I hope it never comes down to using it but I'll be damned if I will back down if a scum breaks in my house.

I keep a Remington 870 Special Purpose Magnum with the 20" Turkey barrel and the Improved Cylinder choke tube screwed in leaning against the wall in the bedroom. It's loaded with 3" Winchester XX #4 buckshot loads. #4 buckshot pellets (not to be confused with #4 birdshot) are .24 caliber and there are 42 of 'em in each shell. From inside a house, it would be like getting hit by nearly an entire box of .22's at once! The pellets are heavy enough to punch through multiple layers of clothing (think winter coats. you do have winter in NC don't ya?) but are less likely to carry through multiple walls and such.

I choose the I.C. choke because the smaller shot doesn't spread near as rapidly as 00 or 000 buckshot. Whatever shotgun/choke/load you decide on, pattern the combo at whatever distance you think an in-home invasion defense shot could occur. A close-range shotgun blast with a restrictive choke and/or slow-spreading load will act more like a rifle shot and increase the chances of a clean miss.

The Taurus Judge's are selling like wildfire up here. They just came out with a 3" chambered version and at least one ammo maker (Federal) has introduced home-defense loads tailored just for the Judge. One is a four pellet 000-buckshot load. The pellets measure .36 caliber and move out at 1200 feet per second. That would be like being whacked by 4 .38 special rounds at once!

Saiga 12 with a 20 round drum, Instapark green lazer, 50mm Barska Red Dot Scope (night vision scope would be best for no light situations), and a Surefire light (what I have).........That will take care of whatever comes into the house........Notice I said whatever, not whoever.......Robbers, Wild Animals, Zombies, it wont matter........