I stand corrected, in my district we have great accessibility and communication with our reps.

 

I said driving WASN'T a constitutional right... Read it again...

It doesn't say in there that if you're a criminal you loose your right to "Bear Arms." But if you didn't know that you loose all weapons rights as a Felon, you're living in the past.

Most weapons related violent crimes are committed with ILLEGAL firearms, not legal ones (although the percentage isn't as high as you think... I could only find rates by state).

I know that criminals don't care what the law says. But making it legal for them to get a CCW is kind of back asswards don't you think? Whether or not it deters them, its the principle of the matter that counts.

Jim Crow laws go into a whole lot more than gun control. And that's not what they were enacted for. They were put up by southern bigot white men, who thought that no matter what you did, or who you were, you're skin color meant more than your morals, ethics, and work ethic. I completely disagree with those men, because skin color means nothing, its the brain that makes decisions.

I know constitutional laws, to a point, and I take pride in knowing whats what. Do I uphold all of them? No, and I find it hard to believe anyone here does completely.

I know gun control laws plenty, I'm fighting them right now. I know you don't know me personally, and I don't know you, but I'm on your side (for the most part). Gun control is fine in moderation, anyone who disagrees is ignorant. The problem is that politicians are forgetting what "Moderation" really means, and not just concerning gun control.

BTW, if you meant "show me one crook that has shot somebody using a LEGAL gun", its not that difficult. Remember the VT massacre? Seung-Hui Cho, the shooter, didn't have any problem buying handguns even with his past history of mental illness. We all know how that ended up, 32 dead students later... The laws have since been changed. But do you think those laws are wrong? Do you think we should keep letting the mentally ill (past or present) acquire handguns?

 

Now seeing that I turn 21 on saturday I have not been able to carry a concealed weapon or a pistol for that matter so monday following you can bet I'll have one. I didnt think much of that bill when I first read about it but now that I have seen other ppl voice their opinions I think that this is only protecting Wyoming residents. I wish that times werent so changed if you walk down the street in Laramie with a pistol on your hip you WILL have the police called on you never the less that a rifle is in your pickup. Back in October I was had just gotten back into town from hunting and stopped at the local grocery store and had my rifle in my truck in between the seats bolt out and unloaded and I got out next to a lady that was puttin grocerys in her car and I had my door open for a sec and she must of peaked in and thought that I was up to something bad because when I walked out of the store there were three cops around my truck trying to peak thru my 5% tint. When I got next to my truck the lady was panicky and told the officers that I had a high power sniper rifle in my truck. So the officers told me to pull it out. I pulled out a 30-06 with a scope and they laughed at the lady and told her it was a hunting rifle and we were in the midst of hunting season. They didnt ask for anything more were as my friends have been in similar positions and needed paper work for there weapons. Now I'm not entirely familar with the gun laws in Wyoming but do you have to have paper work on a rifle? What about a handgun? I would like to know the regulations on these because it is quite often I have weapons in my truck in my house and on my body. Thanks.

 

Wyoming does not have registration on rifles or pistols.

You can purchase em face to face in WY, no paperwork needed. Go to a dealer and you fill out a 4473 & do a background check, unless you have a WY Concealed pistol permit (takes about 90 days after the paperwork is submitted)

No paperwork of any kind needed, unless you have a fully automatic machine gun or a silencer, both of which are legal in WY as long as ya have the proper paperwork and tax stamp.

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Even in the harsh state of NY we don't have to have paperwork for long guns... There's no paperwork to show, unless they want you to carry around a sales receipt.

 

I sent an email to the Governor of Wyoming. Here is the reponse:

MEMORANDUM
TO: All the persons who have communicated recently with the Governor’s office concerning the issue of reciprocity of Wyoming’s Concealed Weapons Permits with respect to other states
FROM: C.A. “Kip” Crofts, Counsel to Governor Freudenthal
Introduction:
Thank you all for your interest and input on this important subject. Due to the large numbers of comments/inquiries we received, it is not possible to give each of you an individual response. So I will try to generally describe and explain the situation here, and if you have further questions or comments you may direct them to me at the email address to which this will be attached.
First I would like to say that our Governor, Attorney General, Legislature, and most citizens of Wyoming are very supportive generally of all 2nd Amendment rights. But all of us in the Executive Branch of government are obliged to follow the law passed by our Legislature, regardless of our personal preferences. Here is a description of what happened, what the problem was, and remains, with an explanation of our plan going forward with this issue:
Background of the Issue:
Current Wyoming Statues (§ 6-8-104) provides that persons from other states are immune from our law generally criminalizing the concealed carry of weapons if “the person holds a valid permit authorizing him to carry a concealed firearm authorized and issued by a governmental agency or entity in another state that recognizes Wyoming permits, is a valid statewide permit, and the state has laws similar to the provisions of this section, as determined by the attorney general, including a proper background check of the permit holder.”
The difficulty that has arisen recently has to do with scope and meaning of the phrase “laws similar to” quoted above, and more specifically with how the various states handle the issue of prior misdemeanor convictions for controlled substance offenses or other controlled substance involvement.
Wyoming Statutes, in a further provision of the same section quoted above, provides that a Wyoming permit may only be given to someone “who has not been committed to a state or federal facility for the abuse of a controlled substance or convicted of a violation of the Wyoming Controlled Substances Act of 1971 [citing sections of entire act] or similar laws of any other state or the United States relating to controlled substances.” (Elsewhere in the law are other references to disqualification based on the person being an “unlawful user” of or having participated in “incidents involving” controlled substances.)
Wyoming’s Controlled Substances Act is a comprehensive act, and it includes misdemeanor provisions concerning the possession of small amounts and/or the use of controlled substances. (It contains felony provisions too, of course, but they are not relevant to this discussion because a felony conviction will generally bar any possession of a firearm, concealed or not.)
Several years ago Wyoming was reviewing the application of another state for reciprocity with Wyoming, and it was noticed that the state’s laws governing issuance of its concealment permits did not bar applicants in that state based on prior misdemeanor drug convictions. At that time it was determined not to grant reciprocity to that state because its laws were not deemed to be “similar” to Wyoming’s and for the seemingly obvious reason that it seemed inconsistent and unfair to recognize a permit holder (who might have a drug conviction) from another State, when the same person could not qualify for a permit in Wyoming. At that time it was determined to survey the laws of the other 49 states to see if similar inconsistencies existed.
That survey was completed on January 23, 2009. The results showed that eight other states have laws similar to Wyoming’s, barring applicants with prior misdemeanor drug convictions. Twelve states bar applicants for some period of time, ranging from three to ten years after the conviction. Eight states disqualify for controlled substance “use” under varying circumstances. Four states disqualify applicants who are “addicted” to controlled substances, and eighteen do not appear to have any disqualifier for misdemeanor drug convictions, or usage or addiction.
Based on the results of this survey, and the determination that had been made in 2007 when the survey was commenced, the Division of Criminal Investigation announced the change in Wyoming’s reciprocity policy that led to your concerns.
Current Status:
Recognizing that this change potentially had far-reaching consequences, possibly causing other states to withdraw recognition of Wyoming’s permits, and because the survey and comparison for “similarity” had been too narrow in scope by only considering the controlled substance issue, the Governor and Attorney General decided to rescind that change and leave things in the “status quo” that has existed for several years while we study this further.
The Attorney General plans to survey the other states again, and look not just at the controlled substance issue, but at the entire list of requirements for the issuance of a permit. He will then try to develop some understanding of what our Legislature might have intended by the word “similar” when they passed our statute several years ago, and do a more comprehensive comparison of the laws for “similarity” – looking further than the single issue of drugs. Obviously there will be differences from one state to the next, and that term (similar) will require some degree of judgment to be exercised by the Attorney General under the current statute. His survey may show that some states have more stringent requirements than Wyoming’s in some area other than drugs, and through some balancing or weighting of all of the criteria, he may decide that they are “similar” enough to satisfy the Legislature’s intent. He plans to complete that new survey, and arrive at some conclusion on that issue, prior to the time our Legislature meets next year. If it is his “determination” that some narrowing of our grants of reciprocity must occur under the current law, he will make that determination prior to the legislative session, so that they may change our statute if they wish.
At this time I cannot predict the outcome of either the Attorney General’s review, or what, if anything, our Legislature might do with this issue.
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really, that's the conclusion you came to?? you know the real crying shame that you blatantly overlooked is that 32 students died because it's ILLEGAL for someone that respects human life to carry a firearm on campus in self preservation.

you know why these people go to school campuses to do shootings?? because it's like walking into a chicken coup with a shotgun!!! criminals, sociopaths, psychopaths, child molesters, murderers and whatever other definition of sick person you can think of all have something in common...they don't like being out of control of a situation, they don't like being challenged, they don't like even the thought of knowing they could possibly stare down the barrel of someone's firearm as they're eating their last meal of lead before they go rot in hell. so they go where they KNOW they won't be threatened.

94matt, you make it sound as if there's some sort of influx of permit holding druggies overtaking the streets of wyoming. really? you're worried about druggie trash somehow legally acquiring a firearm, then legally acquiring a legitimate CCW and then taking the streets of wyoming over? do you have any clue how difficult it is, even in 'easy' states, to get a permit if there's ANYTHING on your record? most states even take your driving record into consideration.



coming from the socialist republic of california, all of you guys had better watch your states on 2A rights before you're all legislated into being criminals. with politicians and legislators, there is no middle ground, there is no compromise. giving a little bit of freedom up for 'safety' gets their hands around your neck just a little tighter.

 

Took me a minute to cough up those words that were shoved in my mouth. I'm not worried about out of state druggies taking over the state. Since the entire argument revolves around not honoring other states' permits whom overlook drug convictions on applications, I'd say yes, I now have some idea of how "easy" it is to get a permit in some states.

What I am worried about is an out of state Jackass with an obviously less than stellar background coming here and playing commando. They are bad enough as it is, so no, I wouldn't mind too much if they didn't let people with drug convictions carry a concealed weapon around me.

I don't agree that we shouldn't be allowed to carry in states with less strict rules than our own just because we don't honor theirs. This whole system is screwed up no matter how you look at it. In my opinion, it's better to try to fix it right instead of just clinging to whatever we have for fear of losing all gun rights. That is a defeatist attitude.