If you can only own 1 gun what would it be??
 

If I CAN ONLY OWN 1 GUN ??? I would want a rifle that would do it all, be accurate, like a M1A !!!!

Well, I would usually agree with you on this one but during these particular times I would have to reach for my AK. That gun is the SHTF gun for sure. I could kill animals with it as well if need be but mainly for protection against looters, etc.

30.06

with the wide range of ammo it is one of the best all around rifles

HI staarma, I'll tell you what I don't like about the AK-47, as my only gun to have !!! It is not accurate, ammo not powerful enough or suitable for hunting, AK-47 is only good for a short range (300 yard) assult rifle.

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HI GRI, I almost pick the M1 over the M1A, BUT, the fact that the M1A has a 20 round detachable mag, that you can take out, and add extra rounds or different rounds, made me pick the M1A, I love my M1, but it only has 8 rounds !!!

i only have a 20 gauge

HI EDDIE, A 20 gauge will defend you at close range(20 yard) hunt quail, ducks, with slugs deer, hog, (100 yard) BUT you must get a rifle !!!

How about a loaded one? :humm:
Isn't too much good if you dont have the ammo.
LoL

Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

How about a nice long range sniper weapon with night scope, I hate hand to hand.

HI cdennyb, I like your choice, BUT that sniper rifle, MUST HAVE iron sights for close range, and speed, and must have a mag, with at least 4 to 5 rounds !!!

well y dont ya buy me one then, im broke and i spend my money on my daughters before i do anything else, then on my truck

I'm guessing I need a 9mm Browning or a 44 Mag Desert Eagle then, In addition to that Barret Sniper Rifle Huh?

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I'm still sticking to my AK. I have thousands of rounds, it never jams not even with dirt, water, mud, etc. I can still hit a target with multiple round bursts and with 30 round mags it is nice to have on my side. Most of those same reasons are why the AK is still the #1 rated assault rifle of all time.

With that said, I have quite a few guns with their own specialties and there are reasons why. Each does what they do best for their own niche. I guarntee though if looters come to the house I'm picking up the AK or the SBR AR-15 and will let them experience pain. If that don't work then it's the Winchester Defender alternately loaded with 1 oz. slugs and 00 buck. Of course I usually have the Glock within reach too or many others both long and short.:U:

I have several guns is my safe that I consider to be my "favorites" for one reason or another. But if I had to choose just ONE for home defense, hunting or out-right "Red Dawn" survival mode, I think it would be hard to beat the good ol' Remington 870 pump-action 12 ga. scattergun. Ammo can be found (or stolen if need be)) from just about anywhere and with the right shell you can take down anything from a flying mourning dove (low brass #8 shot) to a moose or bear (3" mag rifled slug). Any of the above would be VERY difficult with a pistol or AR or AK style rifle (pop any of those against a pissed-off grizzly and you better save one shot for yourself!), and it's hard to argue the effectiveness of a shotgun blast on a dude when plated #4 buckshot is selected.

Bring along a rifled barrel with a good scope perched on top (carried in your pack) and some sabot slugs, and a man-sized target out to 200 yds and maybe a bit further is in for a real bad day.

It also wouldn't hurt to buddy-up with anyone packing a .50 Cal Barret!:U:

I'll second that...


Any 12ga pump will do for me. Ammo is available anywhere in any kind of load you could want. It'll take down anything at close range plus you can scatter shoot if need be. :gunner: The long range capabilities are still there with a slug barrel and scope.

HI EDDIE, If your looking for a decent inexpensive rifle, BUY a MOSIN NAGANT model 91 (long barrel) or a model 44 (short barrel) I have two model 44, the caliber is 7.62X54 it has the same power as a 30-06, and it only cost me $80 each, and they are accurate !!! FOR THE MONEY YOU CAN'T GET A MORE POWERFUL RIFLE !!!!

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HI cdennyb, I like 9MM BROWNING HIGH POWER, it fits my hand like a glove, you can get 9MM ammo anywhere on earth, plus it's cheap, DESERT EAGLE 44 MAG, is to big for my hand, to big to hide, but it gives you 8 rounds of BUTT-KICKING 44 MAG !!!:yeah: The BARRET 50 BMG, I have never fired one, I have McMILLAN & STATE ARMS 50 BMG, ALL 50 BMG (with-out rifle sights) are only good for long distance, you can't shoot at a man at close range with a scope, cause you will have a hard time finding him in the scope, plus all that movement will make you dizzy !!!

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HI staarma, I'm not insulting the AK-47, The right tool, for the right job !!! I have a MADDI AK-47, I would use it, If faceing mutiple people, at less than 50 yards, 7.62X39 has little recoil, and the AK-47 is a light rifle, and doesn't jam, plus I have some 75 round drums !!! BUT I rather have an M1A, M1.

Hmmm or maybe this one! :humm:

http://hackedgadgets.com/wp-content/...fork_knife.jpg

or this one!
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I'll stick with my Barrett and the Desert Eagle, If us 'good ol boys' were to pair up, I'd have good company for the shotgun uses, and of course if I were to phuque-up and let the intruder get too close, well, I'm guessing the muzzle blast alone would daze them enuf for everyone out there to open up with their shotguns!:5:

I usually work alone, seldom close quarters, so long rifle and big pistol are all i need to pack. If I need a shotgun, maybe I could "pick one off" er... I mean "pick one up" cheap.:w2:

Glad we're all on the same side! LoL

HI cdennyb, Don't forget to buy a couple of reloaders, for the 50 BMG, I have the LEE, for every other calibers, I have two DILLION 550, one for rifles, the other for handguns.

I thought .50 cals were illegal in The People's Republik of Klaifornia"?

my 30/30 with a ballistic 150 grain bullet:U:

Saiga 12 ...... THE END

i could clean a room with a ruger 10/22. all shots to the head. and its automatic so at long ranges i could fire a burst and probably one bullet would hit its target. just got to be accurate since its not excalty as powerful as a 12 gauge:w2:

A double gun would be ideal---shotgun barrel on the bottom and a mid caliber rifle on the top, or side by side, whichever.

I'd be hella concerned with breakdowns and parts availability. Having something simple and easy like an AK pattern SA rifle or a standard pump action or break open action shotgun would seem to be the ideal...less **** to go wrong.

A bolt action rifle would rock, however you limit yourself on the close range action and also with limited chances at hunting for food....ever see what happens to a grouse when hit with an -06 or 338? Even the 50gr accelerator sabots will blow one all to heck....and imagine trying to lead a wood duck or even a goose with a rifle? holy wow what a pain...

SA rifles in small calibers would be a compromise, and again how will they work when dirty, parts availability, etc???....??? A 10/22 or the little Marlin with the 15 shot tube would be great...until they jam, clog, or break.

I'd even be so inclined as to cancel my choice of the Saiga 12, however an AK pattern SA 12 gauge shotgun with high capacity detachable mags is hard to put down. They have 20rd drums mags, too. :U:

I think we can agree that there is no perfect "one gun"....which is a great defense when you're arguing with the wife about your latest toy and it's need. heehee

my 870 express

HI Lucas Amick, The 30/30 with a ballistic tip 150 gr. bullet, mite be good out to 300 yards,

870 Remington with a rifled slug barrel and a nice long shot barrel........can shoot thousands of rounds and never fail or falter.......

MR. Miyagi, WHY a SHOTGUN ???? EVEN a semi-auto shotgun, The shotgun is a short-range weapon, even with slugs, it mite be a 200 yard weapon, it kicks like a monster, and buck-shot will only be lethal at less than 30 yards !!! and they are not accurate, when you need a pinpoint head shot. Don't get me wrong, I have shotguns, pumps and semi-auto with mags.

the only weapon you really need is yourself........everything else are just tools......

Aww somebody's shoulder hurts after a few rds from a 12ga?

I don't know what kind of buckshot you shoot,but i've dropped deer out to 75yrds with 00. Aint no man standin after i throw a rd of 00 at him.

And not accurate?? :ph:

HI SmokinPiney, My shoulder don't hurt, after I shot any rifle or shotgun, I wear a shooter's pad, as for you dropping a deer at 75 yards, well it could have been a LUCKY HIT, If I have to shoot a ARMED THUG, I would like for him to be within 15 yards !!!

My little brother has an old Savage model 24 (i think). It's an over/under with a .30-30 on top and 20-gauge shotgun on bottom. It has fully adjustable rifle sights and is drilled and tapped for scope mounts. As stated above, the .30-30 loaded with a good ballistic tip type bullet would be good out to about 300 yds or so and with the rifle being a break-open single shot, there's no reason why you couldn't use the pointed bullet.

Now if you have a .30-30 with a tubular magazine, like a marlin or winchester lever action, the only SAFE pointed bullet that can be used is Hornady's new LeverEvolution ammo with the Flex Tip bullets. Any other pointed bullet can, and will, detonate the primer of the cartridge in front of it and the whole magazine can go up in your face! The problem with the LeverEvolution ammo is it's pretty expensive when compared to "regular" ammo and Hornady hasn't released the flex-tip bullets as reloading components.

I'm with cdennyb. i'm more of a kill you from 1000yards away kinda guy. BUT i wouldn't pick the barret .50 cal. i'd rather have something more accurate. plus, you can't hunt for food with it cause the bullet is so large and traveling so fast there is a good chance it will just blow up anything smaller than a dog, or just put a giant hole in that big buck you got scoped in.

So I would either go with a M40A3, or a Dragunov. sure i'll take a desert eagle but i won't need it unless somone sneeks up behind me.

tell ya what cdennyb you face one way and i'll face the other and we'll just pick people off. that way we don't have to deal with "well what about close combat?":c:

HI dieseldude03, The SAVAGE 24, is a great survival rifle, you have a rifle & shotgun all in one, The only down side is, two shots a & you have to reload, I like a gun with MORE FIRE-POWER, It has to be able to fire at least 4 to 5 rounds before you need a reload.

When one gun--only one, single gun--is available to perform all necessary functions of a firearm, ie door breeching, long range shooting, close range combat, hunting for small, medium, and large game, personal protection, "fear factor", blowing locks off sheds to get to supplies.......I highly doubt there is any centerfire or rimfire modern firearm that can match all the variables a shotgun is capable of handling.

A Mossberg 500 with three for four interchangeable barrels and extended shell tube would probably be the best choice actually.

As far as recoil goes, that's the beauty of 2 3/4", 3", heavy shot, light shot, target loads, game loads, full power loads....plus in a SHTF situation pretty much every home, business, store, and probably vehicle out there has at least one round of 12ga in it some place.

Need to throw a screen of death out there? Find some broken glass, metal lathe shavings, or even some rocks, and pour them down the barrel on top of a 3" 00 buck Federal LE Flight Control wad and watch the carnage. Pour additional "help" down the barrel of a M1A and that's exactly what you'll need.....help.

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were talkin like in desperate times a shotgun will be better than a AK. there are so many different types of ammo you can use in a 12 gauge and there are tons of it around. you can kill a multipude of animals without damaging the actual body too bad so you can hunt with it.

yeah it may be not accurate at more than 200 something yards but remember AK isnt excalty a great rifle in terms of accuracy. besides in close comabt a shotgun is going to clean a room better than any AK because it can take a person down with one shot.

any ways if i only have one weapon im not getting into a firefight so the only thing im going to shooting at are people close to me and occasionally more than 150 yards to go for food.

AK-47 might be the greatest assault rifle in the world when talking about its longetivty and price to make it but the only thing its good at is in a firefight.

HI Big Johnson, The M40A3, nice sniper rifle, BUT you don't want to get into a fire-fight at close range, cause of the scope, as for the Dragunov, the 7.62X54 is not an easy round to find, BUT at least it's semi-auto, has decent accuracy !!!!

well they both have very good accuracy. and why would i get into a close range fire-fight? if i see someone that i think is threatening i'll take him down hundreds of yards away from me and he wont know what hit him. as far as ammo goes. if the whole world is at war. if it's every man for himself it's gonna be pure luck to make it long enough to worry about how much ammo you have left. but if there are sides to this war. i think if your side will be able to get you the ammo to whatever gun you are carrying. it really just depends on what situation you are in. and i'm sure i could team up with the AK guy and some of these shotties and we'd be a okay for any kind of fire-fight. whether it's close range, a bunch of people, or a bunch of people 800 yards away. the gun depends mainly on the situation.

so let me get this straight. if dieselbombers were at war we would have snipers armed with Dragunov and M40A3 sniper rifles taking enemys out at hundreds of yards away . and on the ground we would have shotguns with interchangeable barrels and a 9mm or desert eagle pistol as a sidearm

HI Big Johnson, I agree with you about engaging at 1000 yards instead of face to face, BUT maybe the enemy will sneak up on you !!! You have to sleep, shit, and shower, anyways I have alot of sniper rifles, my 50 BMG are heavy, you don't want to carry a 44 pound rifle, plus ammo !!! my McMillan 300 win. mag, with LEUPOLD MARK 4 4.5-14X50 is accurate, but still heavy about 13 pounds. Would like a sniper rifle weighing 7 pounds including a scope !!!
BUT the bottom line is your going to need help from you friend, when do-do hits the fan !!!

yes sir! but you can't forget the AK. lol it's just as important as everything else:tttt:

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yeah but those .50 cals are alot heavier than my 2 choices. and yeah i'll get someone to watck my back. i'm fine with that. wont hurt my ego at all havin someone else to help out:c:

That ain't no lie, lots of talk in this here thread no doubt about that & chances are the biggest talkers won't last 5 min once the fur starts flying :pca1::pca1::pca1: