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Old 02-02-2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by COLETRA1N
Look Im not trying to be a dick man but dodge does not build good trucks, they never have. Second tell me why I run innovatives hot tune all day long with 200,000 miles stock bolts, stock trans, stock FICM, EGR system is still in there for now, Ford coolant, stock oil cooler. ARPs are on the list for down the road but they are NOT needed and well see, your cummins will last for a long time I already said that but your dodge will fall apart long before that. Unless you know a 6.0 inside and out, own one, or you are a technician at a ford dealer dont talk it makes you sound ignorant
All the issues I listed are what is normally the problems with a 6.0. I didnt attack your truck specifically but if you want to turn this into a bigger dick contest go ahead. I dont have to own a 6.0 to know their flaws just as you dont own a Dodge but obvioulsy know everything about them. If you are going to write me off as someone who doesnt know what he talking about because I have never owned a 6.0 then you are more ignorant than I could ever sound. Unless you have seen and driven my trucks, dont get your panties in a bunch and tell me MY Dodge will fall apart. If you dont have anything useful to say about the subject that the OM asked about, dont input. If Dodges are that horrible, list all their problems. Like the lift pump on the 24v that sucks at life and can cause the injection pump to go out. Or the injectors on the Common Rails. Or the EGR system on the 6.7. Or how about any of their auto trannys. The dash crack that occurs in some of the second gens or the paint problems. But most of these problems still cost less than what it does to fix what normally goes wrong with a 6.0. So Im not saying this is what is wrong with your truck in particular. That was just what normally goes wrong on a 6.0. Doesnt help when you talk about your truck and how good your truck is cause more than likely, hes not going to be buying your truck.


 
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:55 PM
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but the money you save by buying a Ford insted of an overpriced dodge, you can take care of all those issues. Also, dont you think that people with issues complain more than people who dont???
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:58 PM
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but the money you save by buying a Ford insted of an overpriced dodge, you can take care of all those issues. Also, dont you think that people with issues complain more than people who dont???
True. There is too many factors to consider when looking at pricing though. I was looking at 97 7.3 CCLB before I got my 6.7. Almost did. Half the price. Alot more miles but the 7.3 is solid. Issues with their trucks? Of course. You have a problem and you want to fix it. Im not saying my Dodge is perfect but if you're going to say something is bad be specific. Im not saying you 03, Im saying the other guy. All he said was Dodges fall apart. How is that helpful to someone looking at buying a truck? We're here to be helpful. Not say "Your truck sucks. No, your truck sucks." That doesnt help.
 

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Old 02-02-2012, 02:00 PM
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the kids who's daddys bought their trucks and they beat um and dont do proper maintence... then they have problems and complain the most.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:13 PM
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Or the ones who buy it after a deployment cause its "cool" to blow smoke everywhere. Then take it out "mudding" and tear the crap out of it and say its a pile of sh*t.
 

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If you want overpriced buy a chevy there doors are glued on
 
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^^^ haha damn
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:51 PM
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[QUOTE=vcustoms86;852711]All the issues I listed are what is normally the problems with a 6.0. I didnt attack your truck specifically but if you want to turn this into a bigger dick contest go ahead. I dont have to own a 6.0 to know their flaws just as you dont own a Dodge but obvioulsy know everything about them. If you are going to write me off as someone who doesnt know what he talking about because I have never owned a 6.0 then you are more ignorant than I could ever sound. Unless you have seen and driven my trucks, dont get your panties in a bunch and tell me MY Dodge will fall apart. If you dont have anything useful to say about the subject that the OM asked about, dont input. If Dodges are that horrible, list all their problems. Like the lift pump on the 24v that sucks at life and can cause the injection pump to go out. Or the injectors on the Common Rails. Or the EGR system on the 6.7. Or how about any of their auto trannys. The dash crack that occurs in some of the second gens or the paint problems. But most of these problems still cost less than what it does to fix what normally goes wrong with a 6.0. So Im not saying this is what is wrong with your truck in particular. That was just what normally goes wrong on a 6.0. Doesnt help when you talk about your truck and how good your truck is cause more than likely, hes not going to be buying your truck.


no were good vcustoms and i was responding so someone else when I was talking about the trucks falling apart, not one of your newer ones. there really arent many problems with cummins while they do have their querks but Ive driven dodges and never like them I know plenty of people with them and the bodies just arent as good as they could be. But if you say that all 6.0s need studs just to run a tuner they dont I was just trying to make a valid point that myself and many others run stock headbolts with custom tunes and are fine it is the cooling system that ruins headgaskets and stretches bolts, also bad tuners like bullydog and superchips. I dont get on hear much not trying to **** off the guys that are, on the powerstroke forums I agree with ALOT of other guys that you shouldnt have to buy aftermarket stuff just to run a stick brand new vehicle, it makes no sense. But there are good 6.0s out there, just have to find them I personally like my torqshift auto the most out of anything on the truck they are stout
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:45 PM
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[quote=COLETRA1N;852807]
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All the issues I listed are what is normally the problems with a 6.0. I didnt attack your truck specifically but if you want to turn this into a bigger dick contest go ahead. I dont have to own a 6.0 to know their flaws just as you dont own a Dodge but obvioulsy know everything about them. If you are going to write me off as someone who doesnt know what he talking about because I have never owned a 6.0 then you are more ignorant than I could ever sound. Unless you have seen and driven my trucks, dont get your panties in a bunch and tell me MY Dodge will fall apart. If you dont have anything useful to say about the subject that the OM asked about, dont input. If Dodges are that horrible, list all their problems. Like the lift pump on the 24v that sucks at life and can cause the injection pump to go out. Or the injectors on the Common Rails. Or the EGR system on the 6.7. Or how about any of their auto trannys. The dash crack that occurs in some of the second gens or the paint problems. But most of these problems still cost less than what it does to fix what normally goes wrong with a 6.0. So Im not saying this is what is wrong with your truck in particular. That was just what normally goes wrong on a 6.0. Doesnt help when you talk about your truck and how good your truck is cause more than likely, hes not going to be buying your truck.


no were good vcustoms and i was responding so someone else when I was talking about the trucks falling apart, not one of your newer ones. there really arent many problems with cummins while they do have their querks but Ive driven dodges and never like them I know plenty of people with them and the bodies just arent as good as they could be. But if you say that all 6.0s need studs just to run a tuner they dont I was just trying to make a valid point that myself and many others run stock headbolts with custom tunes and are fine it is the cooling system that ruins headgaskets and stretches bolts, also bad tuners like bullydog and superchips. I dont get on hear much not trying to **** off the guys that are, on the powerstroke forums I agree with ALOT of other guys that you shouldnt have to buy aftermarket stuff just to run a stick brand new vehicle, it makes no sense. But there are good 6.0s out there, just have to find them I personally like my torqshift auto the most out of anything on the truck they are stout

Truck owners are thick headed because they are the most loyal brand name owners .

The war of who has the better truck Ford VS Dodge VS Chevy will never end.
But I gonna butt in for one sec Dodge are not as overpriced as chevy Ford the mose expensive but fords are very nice trucks no doubt. Chevy the next expensive and there doors are glued on!!! But then again glue today is friggin stong we have yet to break a bolt we glued to an I Beam, with out using a hammer! Dodges are the cheapest price now.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:02 PM
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I think I mentioned Pandora's box in my initial message?!?! LOL I am very thankful for all your input once again and I am glad to hear even people that are loyal to their manufacturer can pick out a particular motor or trans that is less than stellar as well as a particular year that an "oops" was made by the manufacturer. These are the things that help me tremendously. I am gathering that SOME of the original 6.0's had some opportunity for improvement (I'm sure all new model years have had some areas of opportunity).

I contacted a buddy of mine that works in an outbound shipping yard and he said he has an Ottowa spotter with a 5.9L Cummins in his yard that has over 38,000 hours on it and it tugs 40,000# + trailers daily and has never had an issue with it. He said it's a Gen2 12 valve. If I did my research correctly the HP is about 235 and torque about 460. Is this a motor that was available in a 2500 series truck or is that specific to commercial??? If it was/is available in a Ram is it a motor that a tuner like a Bully or Edge can be added to?? Let me know if I should address this to the Cummins area please.

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Derek
 



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