Spectators killed and injured at California 200 desert race
#11
08-16-2010, 09:50 PM
It is very unfortunate that this happened, but there is NO way that anyone can fault the driver. As a spectator at an event like this, you have to take your life into your own hands. There is no way to "fence" a race like this or even patrol every section. IIRC, it was a 50 mile course, there's NO WAY you can police a track that big. There are people hit/injured in corners/jump areas more often than in the news, but its usually minor stuff, not 8 people dying. The families of those killed are in my thoughts and prayers, but this was NOT the driver's fault.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
#12
08-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Diesel Bomber
It is very unfortunate that this happened, but there is NO way that anyone can fault the driver. As a spectator at an event like this, you have to take your life into your own hands. There is no way to "fence" a race like this or even patrol every section. IIRC, it was a 50 mile course, there's NO WAY you can police a track that big. There are people hit/injured in corners/jump areas more often than in the news, but its usually minor stuff, not 8 people dying. The families of those killed are in my thoughts and prayers, but this was NOT the driver's fault.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
#13
08-16-2010, 10:50 PM
Diesel Wrench
It is very unfortunate that this happened, but there is NO way that anyone can fault the driver. As a spectator at an event like this, you have to take your life into your own hands. There is no way to "fence" a race like this or even patrol every section. IIRC, it was a 50 mile course, there's NO WAY you can police a track that big. There are people hit/injured in corners/jump areas more often than in the news, but its usually minor stuff, not 8 people dying. The families of those killed are in my thoughts and prayers, but this was NOT the driver's fault.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
How can you say he was going too fast? He was on a clearly marked race course, racing against the clock. The whole point is to go as fast as you can. Accidents happen, I can garuntee you that he didn't plan to roll the truck at all, let alone roll it into the spectators. All the yahoos that keep blaming the driver need to get a life. The people that go to these races have seen plenty of wrecks before and know what can happen when a race vehicle wrecks off-road. It was their responsibility to stay back a safe distance and unfortunately they weren't far enough.
#14
08-17-2010, 12:15 AM
Diesel Bombers Sponsor
Watching some of the local news here in LA County, it is actually very promising to see a lot of the Desert community including the mother of one of those killed are not blaming the driver and understand that what happened is truly an accident. I truly hope that the people who are not a part of the desert/off-road community listen to those in the sport and don't immediately go to trying to shut these races down.
Again my thoughts and prayers go out to those families and friends of those who lost their lives and to the driver who will have to live with the thought.
Again my thoughts and prayers go out to those families and friends of those who lost their lives and to the driver who will have to live with the thought.
#15
08-17-2010, 01:27 AM
what's the point in placing blame? what's done is done, and we can't go back, we should all learn from this and not place blame because it's not bringing anyone back by blaming the driver, grow up and stop blaming people it's a race where both the driver and the spectators know what could happen at any point in time, mechanical things fail, people get to close, etc, what good is going to do if you pin the blame on someone? I'm sure he didn't purposely do it, and you think blaming him and putting him behind bars for what happened is going to solve any problem? If we do that, why don't we put the M&M's guy behind bars for Dale Earnhardt? Just doesn't make any sense, what's done is done, and mourn the people that need to be mourned and support the driver and their family because I guarantee they are in a bad place right now, and placing fault on people in a situation like this is childish and immature
#16
08-17-2010, 01:41 AM
what really happened .....the video just shows him coming into the turn/downhill grade and then people start screaming ..........no up close photos have been shown of the scene if this was another country they would show people breathing their last breath I have seen alot of tasteless video where this is done after motorcycle and car crashes ...like it's some kind of hobby if I saw someone personally shooting video like that at a crash scene they will be riding along with the victims and it won't be to film the ride in the ambulance that much is sure...
You weren't there. Don't place blame when you have no idea of the situation. All you have is a bunch of second hand "facts" gathered from news media who gathered it from traumatized bystanders. Give your condolences for those who lost their lives, but leave the investigation to the people that know what they are doing.
Well said X2 But as far as I'm concerned fan safety is the sanctioning bodies responsibility and I don't care if it;s a 100 mile course, It's as simple as throwing a yellow flag if spectators get too close, there was a whole crowd of people 1 foot from racing trucks and nobody did anything about it Very unfortunate
All any of you can say is this. There was an accident. 8 People are dead. The driver of the truck is going to live with that fact. 8 Families are going to live with that fact. 12 others are going to spend long hours recovering from it. Anything else is pure speculation and a bunch of crap. Leave the investigation to those who know what they are doing. Give your condolences and move on.
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#17
08-17-2010, 05:37 AM
Banned
#18
08-17-2010, 09:16 AM
well I wasn`t there and can only comment on what I see on the news
my condolences to the families
first I don`t see how anyone can place fault with the driver
He was in a race,trying to win and to do that pushing himself and his truck to the limits
on the news it said the people were only suppose to be on one side of the race track and 100 feet back from the track
sorry but this is just poor race planning my accident my truck rolled well over 100 feet
I hope this doesn`t shut down the races everyone enjoys but the organizers are going to have to do something to keep this from happening again
my condolences to the families
first I don`t see how anyone can place fault with the driver
He was in a race,trying to win and to do that pushing himself and his truck to the limits
on the news it said the people were only suppose to be on one side of the race track and 100 feet back from the track
sorry but this is just poor race planning my accident my truck rolled well over 100 feet
I hope this doesn`t shut down the races everyone enjoys but the organizers are going to have to do something to keep this from happening again
#20
08-17-2010, 10:03 AM
Banned
