I dont care who you are, thats funny right there.

No....It's a Cummins engine... Dodge buys them from Cummins. Just like ford used to buy there diesel engines from International. Now they make there own diesels... unlike Dodge who still need to buy someone elses superior engines.. My Ford is 24 years old and still tougher than nails.... It will be in another 24 too. You will have traded up to a Ford by then....

Either that or on his 24th transmission by then.

oh sh!t.......

at least ya know which engine is superior

i wouldnt be ready to write a check for the new ferd diesel, at least for a few years so it can prove itself. the 7.8 wasnt nuthin to brag about.

to bad ford didnt offer a cummins in there trucks........

oh wait. they did........ in their SERIOUS trucks. F-650 and up.

serious trucks use CUMMINS. the light dooties use V- engines

and how about the nv4500 used in dodges vs the zf-5 used in ferds while we are at it

but then neither were BUILT by the truck maker offerin em.

why cant the pu manufactures be like the big truck manufactureres. offer engine, trans, axles etc of choice.

gotta build it yourself,,,,, which ya did.

for me. im stickin with a 12v in a DODGE.

The problem with OD transmissions and diesels is the OD shaft they use is weaker than the other shaft which has the main gears. The Cummins would back off the OD shaft nut causing epic failure. I'm not really familiar with the ZF5, but do know it is weaker than the T19.

I've heard the Getrag 360 was actually a true OD transmission with the OD gear on the main shaft and Dodge hurried the Getrag manf and they screwed up the fill hole location. That's why you have to over fill them by 1-1.5 quarts from inside the cab if you want them to last. I don't know though, it could all be bs.

The ZF diesel trans is rated for 450 lb/ft of torque... My Fummins hit 758 lb/ft on the dyno, so I'm running on borrowed time.... I'm trading a paint job for an NV4500, and I'm hoping it shows up quick. My ZF is starting to make some noise..

as w/ the nv4500. mine is lightly tacked. hope that does the trick as it has on others.

and the zf had heat issues which really made it necesary to add external oil collers like atf coolers with a pump to circulate. one local guy i know needed to do that in addition to homemade fast coolers.

fact is the nv5600 tranny also needs to be overfilled by a quart to a quart and a half to make it live just as with the g-360.

some engineers heads were up their dung holes

i want a true medium duty truck trans to match my medium duty truck engine

maybe a 7 speed with a direct drive top gear with a 3.23 rear

My company service truck(2010 F-750) has the spicer 7 speed, and it is a huge, tough SOB... I wish they made one with a married t-case with a drivers side front output..

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