CONVERTING WASTE MOTOR OIL TO DIESEL FUEL
#41
02-23-2010, 02:31 PM
Diesel Bomber
You might as well just skip that step, because it isn't doing anything in terms of filtering the used oil. You have to use a type of filter that is more efficient than the one it was runnnig through before being drained from whatever engine it was in.
My current WMO filter setup:
http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/PhotoAlbu...cs/Filter5.jpg
10um Fleetguard fuel pre-filter, to submicronic Motorguard TP filter, total capacity 4 gallons. I circulate it for a hour or 2 at a time whenever I remember to turn it on until I need some, usually an average of I'd guess around 20 hours which probably equals maybe a hundred passes? Don't know, never really measured it, just know it takes +-15 minutes to pump it out when I empty it, depending on how cold it is. Slow flow is better for filtration purposes.
The '91 has been running a 40-to-1 mix ratio for over three years, and the '07 has been running the WMO at a 60-to-1 ratio for two years. Both running stronger than new...
My current WMO filter setup:
http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/PhotoAlbu...cs/Filter5.jpg
10um Fleetguard fuel pre-filter, to submicronic Motorguard TP filter, total capacity 4 gallons. I circulate it for a hour or 2 at a time whenever I remember to turn it on until I need some, usually an average of I'd guess around 20 hours which probably equals maybe a hundred passes? Don't know, never really measured it, just know it takes +-15 minutes to pump it out when I empty it, depending on how cold it is. Slow flow is better for filtration purposes.
The '91 has been running a 40-to-1 mix ratio for over three years, and the '07 has been running the WMO at a 60-to-1 ratio for two years. Both running stronger than new...
#42
02-25-2010, 05:49 PM
I know some..think this is assinine but if your curious, contact your oil manufacturer and see what thier minimum micron filtration standards are. you'll be suprised...some are under the impression that the additive package in oil "liquifies". but it don't- they are mostly solids. real small ones...just ask for your self before filtering it too small...but to run it in your fuel, a centrifuge to 1 micron or smaller would be better..to that one guy that this process dont work out for so well-- well i hope you have warranty. here is a pic of the filter micron rating on a customers oil sample.
Last edited by Tinman875; 02-25-2010 at 06:01 PM. Reason: proof
#43
03-06-2010, 10:01 AM
Hey there i would certainly be willing to help i currently have my jeep crd running on used engine oil and my garage heated by it and also hydro with diesel gen-set.
lets chat.
pthedevil@hotmail.com
lets chat.
pthedevil@hotmail.com
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#44
03-10-2010, 08:23 PM
CONVERTING WASTE MOTOR OIL TO DIESEL FUEL
Converting used motor oil to a useable fuel source. Currently, the market for used motor oil has stymied many recycling and reclamation efforts. The market for used motor oil has largely been geared to limited processing steps which convert the used motor oil into a low quality fuel such as bunker oil (#6 fuel oil) . Alternatively, a limited amount of used motor oil is reclaimed and converted into a recycled motor oil product.
Used motor oil retains a high energy potential. However, hazards and cost associated with collecting, storing, transporting, and general handling of used motor oil has limited the efforts to collect used motor oil for disposal or recycling. Although the prior art provides limited processing of used motor oil for other petroleum products, there remains a need for improvement within the art of converting used motor oil to a high quality energy source.
Waste oil from internal combustion engines can be cracked under low temperature, low severity conditions to yield a number two grade diesel fuel.
The starting hydrocarbon material, used motor oil, is characterized by a mixture of parafins, napthenes, aromatics, and olefins. above thirty percent distilled, cracking becomes vigorous between 60 and 650°F. The condensation temperature of the distilled material never exceeds the maximum boiling point temperature for #2 two diesel fuel. Therefore, in terms of boiling points, the cracked material meets the specifications for #2 diesel fuel.
Metal particles are typically in the micron and submicron range and represent particles sufficiently small such that they pass through standard oil filters.
Converting used motor oil to a useable fuel source. Currently, the market for used motor oil has stymied many recycling and reclamation efforts. The market for used motor oil has largely been geared to limited processing steps which convert the used motor oil into a low quality fuel such as bunker oil (#6 fuel oil) . Alternatively, a limited amount of used motor oil is reclaimed and converted into a recycled motor oil product.
Used motor oil retains a high energy potential. However, hazards and cost associated with collecting, storing, transporting, and general handling of used motor oil has limited the efforts to collect used motor oil for disposal or recycling. Although the prior art provides limited processing of used motor oil for other petroleum products, there remains a need for improvement within the art of converting used motor oil to a high quality energy source.
Waste oil from internal combustion engines can be cracked under low temperature, low severity conditions to yield a number two grade diesel fuel.
The starting hydrocarbon material, used motor oil, is characterized by a mixture of parafins, napthenes, aromatics, and olefins. above thirty percent distilled, cracking becomes vigorous between 60 and 650°F. The condensation temperature of the distilled material never exceeds the maximum boiling point temperature for #2 two diesel fuel. Therefore, in terms of boiling points, the cracked material meets the specifications for #2 diesel fuel.
Metal particles are typically in the micron and submicron range and represent particles sufficiently small such that they pass through standard oil filters.
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What ratio for the acetone?
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#45
03-11-2010, 12:16 AM
Diesel Enthusiast
I was told of a man in Arizona who was running 50/50 used motor oil and diesel in his Powerstroke. In fact he was said to run 90/10 when he went out on the freeway [ yes 90% motor oil and 10% diesel ] He used the 50/50 mix around town because the exhaust smell was so bad.
This was a friend of a friend tale. I am sure any diesel would run on this, but would there be consequences?
I would love to meet this man, and hear of the outcome over time.
My air dog comes with a 2 micron filter. I would think if you prefiltered this used motor oil in a similar filter and used something magnatized to pick up metal, you could use it in small diluted diesel say 10% or so.
If I had an older pre common rail truck, I think I wouldn't mind doing this.
what do you all think?...
This was a friend of a friend tale. I am sure any diesel would run on this, but would there be consequences?
I would love to meet this man, and hear of the outcome over time.
My air dog comes with a 2 micron filter. I would think if you prefiltered this used motor oil in a similar filter and used something magnatized to pick up metal, you could use it in small diluted diesel say 10% or so.
If I had an older pre common rail truck, I think I wouldn't mind doing this.
what do you all think?...
#46
03-11-2010, 08:39 AM
well in my schhool we made some diesel from motor oiol and called it black diesel we used a transfer pump and a hydrolic fulid filter to filter the oil out and added some ceatane boster and acetone and diesel mixed it all up and run it thogh the filter and pumped it into our trucks
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oh and we put anti gel in it too from motorcraft because our teacher drove a ford
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oh and we put anti gel in it too from motorcraft because our teacher drove a ford
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#49
03-13-2010, 05:26 AM
Acetone is a heavy duty degreaser!
It is so aggressive that it easly destroys and cracks O-rings, seals and hoses.
We use acetone as a cleaner too - but we also discard contaminated seals immedeatley and replace them with fresh seals and parts.
You don't have acetone resistant teflon hoses in your truck, do you?
It may act as a thinner, but it also takes lubing abilities away!
"Some automotive enthusiasts add acetone at around 1 part in 500 to their fuel, following claims of improvement in fuel economy and engine life.
Systematic testing has determined that acetone has no measurable effect on fuel economy or may in fact reduce engine life by adversely affecting fuel system parts."
It is so aggressive that it easly destroys and cracks O-rings, seals and hoses.
We use acetone as a cleaner too - but we also discard contaminated seals immedeatley and replace them with fresh seals and parts.
You don't have acetone resistant teflon hoses in your truck, do you?
It may act as a thinner, but it also takes lubing abilities away!
"Some automotive enthusiasts add acetone at around 1 part in 500 to their fuel, following claims of improvement in fuel economy and engine life.
Systematic testing has determined that acetone has no measurable effect on fuel economy or may in fact reduce engine life by adversely affecting fuel system parts."
#50
04-01-2010, 01:29 PM
I run 50/50 mix in my 01.5 24 valve... I do run it through...
I start with 10 micron particulate... then 10 micron particulate/water separator... then 2 micron particulate... I run it through the first time through the filter bank... then just circle through the filters for about 10 minutes after the first filtering... From the above pictures I have added magnets to the outside of the filters to catch any junk I can... Then through a OC20 Centrifuge for an hour or so
I start with 10 micron particulate... then 10 micron particulate/water separator... then 2 micron particulate... I run it through the first time through the filter bank... then just circle through the filters for about 10 minutes after the first filtering... From the above pictures I have added magnets to the outside of the filters to catch any junk I can... Then through a OC20 Centrifuge for an hour or so
