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Kyle_KleinSS 12-14-2010 10:28 AM

Here you are 44 bucks this is where I got mine a year ago

586-902 Stancor General Purpose / Industrial Relays

DA BUS 12-15-2010 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 665038)
Did you replace the correct relay? Are you testing the correct relay?

There are two there... One for the intake air heater, and one for the glow plugs.


OOooo! Now this is interesting. Can someone post a pic of this relay board, or whatever you call it? I am having cold start problems too. I would gladly replace both relays if I knew what to look for. Mine starts great in the warm weather, but sucks in the cold. I also get plenty of white smoke when cranking too.

THANKS!!:tu:

99stackedpowerstroke 12-15-2010 10:04 AM

just look on top of the motor on the passenger side, you will see 2 relays, they look just like ford starter solenoid, i BELIEVE the one you want to change is the rear (i could be wrong tho), and make sure you get the glow plug relay or you could burn your computer up,

CSIPSD 12-15-2010 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by DA BUS (Post 667983)
OOooo! Now this is interesting. Can someone post a pic of this relay board, or whatever you call it? I am having cold start problems too. I would gladly replace both relays if I knew what to look for. Mine starts great in the warm weather, but sucks in the cold. I also get plenty of white smoke when cranking too.

THANKS!!:tu:


Your Excursion does not have a GPR... It has a Glow Plug Control Module... Its fancy... and expensive, and breaks all the damn time! On my 4th one for the wifes Excursion!

DA BUS 12-15-2010 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 668055)
Your Excursion does not have a GPR... It has a Glow Plug Control Module... Its fancy... and expensive, and breaks all the damn time! On my 4th one for the wifes Excursion!

Okay so anyone have a P/N and/or a procedure for testing this? I don't show any codes and my curly cue glow plug light comes on the way it should. I can also hear (what I think is) the cold air warmer fire off. It makes that whoooosh sound.

I would gladly replace the GPCM if I could verify it's malfunction.

Ideas?

CSIPSD 12-15-2010 11:32 AM

Glow plug light means squat, its an idiot light...

You can not hear the intake air heater, more then likely you are hearing a vacumn pump, and the intake air heater has nothing to do with cold starts, infact it does not even come on during cold starts.

What are you using to look for codes? If your GPCM is out, you will have a code for it.

DA BUS 12-15-2010 11:38 AM

I have a generic SES scanner just to read codes I bought at Pep Boys. It clears my PO238 I get when in over boost, but that's another story.

Really? about the glow plug light? I have seen that stay on once in a while too, until I key off and re start. That's rare though.

As for the whooosh, what is that then????? Wouldn't that be the best time for that heater to come on -- cold starts??? I am really confused now.:humm:

Diezel Dawg 12-15-2010 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by CSIPSD (Post 666570)
Napa... GPR109... about $34 bucks. I have not replaced one in about 2 years now.

There is also the Staycor, which is a tough SOB but about $100 bucks.


Originally Posted by Kyle_KleinSS (Post 667233)
Here you are 44 bucks this is where I got mine a year ago
586-902 Stancor General Purpose / Industrial Relays

I paid the same, nothing near $100

CSIPSD 12-15-2010 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by DA BUS (Post 668099)
I have a generic SES scanner just to read codes I bought at Pep Boys. It clears my PO238 I get when in over boost, but that's another story.

Doubtful it will read diesel codes, and not in depth at all...


Really? about the glow plug light? I have seen that stay on once in a while too, until I key off and re start. That's rare though.
yup, nothing more then a glorified idiot light... Watch this video that shows how long the glow plugs stay on after the WTS or light goes off. This is on a warm motor too.





As for the whooosh, what is that then????? Wouldn't that be the best time for that heater to come on -- cold starts??? I am really confused now.:humm:
The intake air heater was added in late 99 for nothing more then white smoke when sitting at extended idle. It has NOTHING to do with cold starts. It will not come on unless the parking brake is set, truck is in Park and the oil temp is above a set point...

CSIPSD 12-15-2010 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Diezel Dawg (Post 668100)
I paid the same, nothing near $100

Well I will stick to my GPR109 for 24.98... Same one for 3 years now...:tu:


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