Your also comparing a mileage and power robbing auto Ford to a straight drive Dodge. Like I said, my straight drive F250 wouldn't EVER see below 18mpg city; usually hovering around 21mpg city.

power robbing manual? didnt tests show that manuals took less power than autos? manuals can be driven to preference too

It was a misprint, Punk. Long time no speak Erik

ya im shocked you put the pink shirt pic up for your avatar. i wish i was done with mine and i'd give ya the milage on old clifford out there. not too far off. i like the 94-97 model because theres more metal. i dont like the plastic on the "superduty." i think sd's are heavier too (not heavier than mine :tu: ) so you should be able to get possibly a little better but weight doesnt matter too much on these

Yes typically SD's are heavier. But I thought you said you liked the pink shirt and told me to post it as my avatar?!

ha i dont see how they could be heavier with that plastic on them. i'd have all of it cracked in a second. idk its a pretty ballsy choice for an avatar lol

FWIW, My F250 Powerstroke Auto gets 16-21 depending on how I drive and city vs. highway.

are 250's significantly lighter than 350's? just for comparison

They really dont have all that much plastic lol. But I think they are just heavier due to frames/sizing....?

I'm not sure of a 250/350 weight differences. I know they have beefier suspension, other than that I'm not sure of any weight adders...

the best i have gotten from my 96 auto 4 door 4x4 on 33" mudders with a evolution programer set to tow is 15mpg, and thats driving easy with the cruise on and 95% highway, now, my tdi golf has gotten me a 51mpg on cruise 95% highway.