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Old 05-16-2012, 10:57 PM
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No trans mods, stuff like exhaust, better intercooler. For daily drivers the Edge is a good unit, even if you like to get on it every now and then. The Edge is not for the guys that want to take it to the track on weekends or drive like idiots all the time. I have 255k on the truck and I have had the Edge on it for the last 155k with no issues, I tow a 10k lb gooseneck every weekend,about 200mi round trip and haven't had the slightest issue with trans, I use the tow mode on shifter and on edge and I am able to keep my EGTs below 1000 deg. unless going over bay bridge then it might hit 1100 for a little bit and that is it. One of the big issues with it that can get people in trouble is installing it the driving like a kid would right from the start, If you follow the directions and let it learn te shifting presures they work great. the Edge is not for everyone, it is good for those that depend on their trucks so they don't abusee them, it i not good for someone that just runs the hell out of it all the time, they can run the SCT and beat it up if they want too. I'm sorry but I won't tell every single person to buy the SCT if they allready have an Edge and it fits their driving style, more attention needs to be paid to how someone is using his or her truck before we start spending their money``I get 20mpg cruising on highway and I get 15mpg towing my trailer so I can say I am more than happy with mine.even after all this if/and when/ I get another 6.0 I would probably go with the SCT right off the bat, but if it had an Edge on it I would leave it.
 
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:39 AM
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The intercoolers on these trucks are awesome from the factory, I would consider it a waste of money putting one on a sub 600rwhp truck honestly. Most guys with 7.3's just put our intercoolers on for an upgrade.

Obviously when faced with the choice of buying a new programmer, even you would go SCT.

As for the shifting, it's a good idea to let the trans do some shifting after a flash no matter what programmer you're running. Even with the SCT I'd still tell people to take it easy for a little while before hammering on it, after a reflash. Ideally you would do some 1/4 throttle runs letting it shift through all the gears, then repeat for 1/2 throttle, 3/4 and full. By then it should know what's going on.
 
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:04 AM
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Edge Juice with Attitude Platinum power levels
1. Mileage (joke)
2. Tow
3. Drive (used most often)
4. Race
5. Extreme
6. Hot (send in unit for Hot Unlock with paperwork that truck will haul *** and to not do long WFOs)
My rig had the intake, exhaust AND the Banks intercooler by the time I bought Hot Unlock. My friend used Edge also, his 6.0 was Edge free before mine. At $250+ per tire for the 365s I was running, it didnt get ridden hard that often. The trans settings were another joke, I set it for firm shifts and noticed no changes in shifting.

I'll admit I liked it, but between having to send it in for service/upgrades, Edge refusing service when the CS/CTS came out, and the damage it did, I won't use it again. Especially now that I see the power and how easy updates are on the SCT. Oh yeah, trans settings actually do something with my X3.

No offense, Bob, but if you like Edge so much, I'll sell my you Platinum with the Hot Unlock for cheap.
 
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:31 PM
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i don't have the Platinum, I got the earlier one so I can't speek about how it works. The point I amtrying to make is before we tell someone to spend more money on their truck lets find out how they drive, if they allready have a programmer and it fits their driving style so be it,Not everyone needs the SCT, now I agree if someone is looking for a "programmer" to add to their truck then The SCT is one of the best options.
 
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:01 PM
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A stock 5R110 should last a lot longer than 117k miles... especially running stock tuning.

The fact is, adding more power without any transmission tuning is only going to decrease it's life. Of course our super smart trans will try to adapt, but there is just only so much it can do. If the driving is kept mild and the tune's are kept low, it should still last a while, no doubt. However his transmission is already having issues. Unfortunately I don't know that there is much that can be done at this point.
 
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:01 PM
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If I unhook my batteries and then go out and jump on it the trans will do the exact same thing he is talking about, take it easy for a couple days and is back to normal. Make sure filters are changed when they are supposed to be and have trans fluid changed when supposed to.

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Originally Posted by Mdub707
The intercoolers on these trucks are awesome from the factory, I would consider it a waste of money putting one on a sub 600rwhp truck honestly. Most guys with 7.3's just put our intercoolers on for an upgrade.

Obviously when faced with the choice of buying a new programmer, even you would go SCT.

As for the shifting, it's a good idea to let the trans do some shifting after a flash no matter what programmer you're running. Even with the SCT I'd still tell people to take it easy for a little while before hammering on it, after a reflash. Ideally you would do some 1/4 throttle runs letting it shift through all the gears, then repeat for 1/2 throttle, 3/4 and full. By then it should know what's going on.
Mike, where you notice the difference with the intercooler is when you are towing, I have no problem keeping temps below 1000deg on EGT. With normal driving I noticed 100deg drop in EGTs, with 3 1/2 tubes compare to 3" tubes it does make a difference.
 

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Old 05-18-2012, 07:44 AM
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I have no problems keeping mine below 1000EGT with an aggressive tow tune on and my 21' TT camper hooked up either!? I managed to get it up to `1250* once, but I was going uphill with my foot to the wood. I picked up so much speed I came up on traffic @ 70mph going up hill and had to back out of it, that was the highest I've ever got the gauge with the tow tune.

I never understood how a 3 1/2" tube made any difference when all the connection points are still 3"...
 
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:30 PM
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the connection points are 3 1/2" too, you can't use a stock elbow, you can't use stock pipes.
 
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:46 PM
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Right, and then the intake elbow feeds the hole into the intake manifold which is how big?
 
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:36 PM
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Sorry, OP, I think we just highjacked your post.

Originally Posted by Mdub707
The intercoolers on these trucks are awesome from the factory, I would consider it a waste of money putting one on a sub 600rwhp truck honestly. Most guys with 7.3's just put our intercoolers on for an upgrade.
Originally Posted by Mdub707
I never understood how a 3 1/2" tube made any difference when all the connection points are still 3"...
I have a Banks Techni-Cooler and maybe it's because I live at 4000ft, but 1000* pulling an 18ft dove tail flat deck trailer (with or without the Hot Rod on it) is normal for me on hills. Trust me, there are a few of them here in northern Nev-odda.

On the up side, when the wife's Jeep Liberty broke in Salt Lake City, I was tipping the scales a little over 17K (Souper Doody, trailer, Jeep, cave wench, mother-in-law and her junk) with the same EGTs (1000+ uphill). Does the Techni-Cooler help? Probably. Was it worth the $500 I paid for it (used) considering how little I tow? Maybe?

While the compressor side of the turbo and the hole in the intake may only be 3", the larger tubes and the larger charge air cooler will hold more air. I like to think of it like a bigger radiator on a gasser, you don't see the difference until you need it.

I have heard of 7.3 guys using a 6.0 intercooler as an upgrade for theirs also.
 


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