Ford Powerstroke 03-07 6.0L Discussion of 6.0 Liter Ford Powerstroke Turbo Diesels

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Old 04-23-2012, 03:11 PM
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i will have to ck oil pressure gauge and smoke oil change 2000 miles ago napa oil filter and rotella oil. motorcraft fuel filters same time both pump and bowl wil be changing oil filter to motorcraft to eliminate possiblity i will get a cheap gauge from harbor frieght and check it. no receipt for ipr but feel certain it is for an 03 04 cause they used truck year not motor was little garage also i can hook up my ae if some paramaters will help

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do you have a shop or sell parts?
 

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Old 04-28-2012, 06:16 PM
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ok so when i go to start it the gauge moves very little after waiting between cranking and cycling glow plugs gauge went to middle and started smoking whitish grey smoke then eventually lit. i ran it home and it ran great started it few hours later and gauge moved very little but she lit right up but hesitated at 2200 rpm like dropped all boost and high egts then fuel pressure gauge was on back order i got and in the cab one on order
 
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:09 PM
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so my motor is an 04 with the icp on valve cover but research ive found mine is 560 torque 325 hp in 04 they moved icp to valve and 05 changed hpop and torque to 575so is mine an 03 04 hpop with icp on valve cover i assume. so ipr was replaced with right one an 03? y all the sudden hard starts though with new ipr? never had this hard of problem starting the truck thats the only syptom that is new
 
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:30 PM
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there are several configurations for 04 from what i have found out, there is acctually an early,mid,late. the late ones from my reading have the new pump, basically you have to look at the pump cover,if its cat iron its the old pump style, if its aluminum it will have the top of the pump coming through the top of it and thats the new one, google images of HPOP and you will see the different types of covers.
1/old pump,icp on pump
2/old pump/ icp on valve cover
3/new pump,icp on valve cover
 
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:15 PM
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ok so i unplugged my edge to eliminate it as a cause of problems while driving my truck the engine light came on. checked the codes po683, po670,po237, p2616, po276, po282, po401, po500, po603 glow plug, camshaft sensor, turbo sensor, cylinder 6,8 circut low, egr, vss, icm kam what do all these have in common or with my issue. is my pcm bad? where to start?
 
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:53 AM
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P0683 - glow plug control module to PCM communication circuit open circuit, short to voltage, short to ground, possible faulty PCM

P0670 - glow plug control module circuit short to voltage, short to ground, open circuit

P0237 - turbo boost sensor circuit low, circuit open, short to ground, faulty sensor

P2616 - camshaft position signal output circuit high

P0276 - injector #6 circuit low/open circuit

P0282 - injector #8 circuit low/open circuit

P0401 - EGR flow insufficient

P0500 - VSS vehicle speed sensor faulty

P0603 - PCM KAM (keep alive memory, probably from unloading your Edge)




Sounds more like you have a multitude of separate issues. I'd start by testing the GPCM (glow plug control module), that will likely ease the hard starts and rough idles. Also just reading this over again, did you ever get rid of the napa oil filter, they've been known to cause headaches. Especially since you say the oil pressure gauge comes up really slow as you're cranking... is that right? The camshaft sensor code is probably falsely thrown from cranking so much. Could be something, probably not. Doesn't matter, we don't need a proper signal from the camshaft to run anyways. The turbo sensor... your turbo probably just needs a cleaning/reconditioning. (check here: DTS Articles - Turbocharger Reconditioning ) The VSS is odd, but I'd clean it. It's the sensor on top of the rear diff. Remove it, clean it, try again. EGR flow is obviously from your delete, no worries there. The two injectors though... tough one. They might be bad, they might not. If you haven't swapped that oil filter, start there. You should only be using motorcraft oil filters. (or in this case, FRAM are ok, they're the same thing).
 
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:34 PM
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thank you for your reply i will clean sensors and turbo and change oil filter. i generally only have little oil pressure till she lights then rockets to normal. how do you test glow plug module? or is this a ford tech deal?
 
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:47 PM
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I've got the test specs at work for that I'll post tomorrow. That oil filter needs to come of asap. I've seen 6.0s destroyed from stone of the non OEM oil filters.
 
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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ok so im taking of turbo to clean it. having trouble everything is loose and turbo prys up but wont seem break free dunno if up pipes or down is holding it seems those are places its holding clamp is off back but i didnt loosen manifold up pipes should i do this to move up pipe back off turbo? i found a loose valve cover bolt back one drivers side would this have caused problem? there is coat of oil on turbo on the compressed side dunno if feed line is bad its right under it but line doesnt seem to be leaking. vally under turbo is oily too dunno where coming from

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while i have turbo and boost tubes out of way should i take top off oil cooler and ck screen and order rebuild kit and eliminate that as issue of my problems? or dont spend money if its not broke or ck filter and put gasket in if screen ok?
 

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Old 05-06-2012, 11:30 AM
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you just have to make sure the clamps are all the way off the joint, the drain tube might hold you up a little, some times you just have to give it a good tug to pop it free. Always want to pull it up and to passenger side then you can kind of roll it out

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The oil cooler doesn't have a screen, in order to take oil cooler out you would have to take the intake off, if the cooler has never been replaced and unless it had a coolant filter installed at factory it is most likely clogged up pretty good. It might be a good idea to go ahead and replace the cooler while you are in there. Hot oil can cause things to not operate like they should.
 

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