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Old 05-16-2010, 09:29 PM
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ok i have an 05 6.0 with 4'' exhaust stock filter....etc....my buddy has a 04 and another 00 ford diesel ...they both have a hypertech in-line tunner and love it.....my question is who els here has one and why so many of you like the sct-tuner ???I want something i can unplug if i have to take it to a dealer for something ..what about the other brands bully dog the preditor etc????let me know your thought....I want mild till i get head studs and egt delete...
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:18 PM
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I believe this has already been answered on PSN. SCT is the most popular because you can get custom tunes for it, and it is the only one to my knowledge (other than one other tuner that isn't a production piece yet) that will actually access the TCM in the transmission and tune it. The others just raise line pressure in the trans. The others also just "fool" your computer into adding more fuel and timing, instead of actually tuning it properly.

Hypertech will make your transmission go bye bye.

You can return the truck to stock with any of the programmers though, not a big issue. With the 05+ trucks it's only about 1.5 minutes to reprogram or return to stock.

What makes you love the hypertech? Have you ridden in anything else? They're pretty much all the same with the exception of the SCT.
 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:13 PM
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Just a bit of FYI

Stage 3: +115HP +200TQ
Stage 2: +80HP +131TQ
Stage 1: +37HP +64TQ


Here is a list of the adjustable features for your vehicle from Hypertech.
You will notice that there are NO transmission shift point or rev features to cause problems with the vehicle transmission.

If you or anyone else would like any factual information please feel free to contact the Tech Support Dept. or PM me any time
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Adjustable Features
•Shift Firmness (Not user selectable - automatically installed on certain tuning levels)
•Speedometer\Odometer Correction For Tire Sizes 29-43 inches 1/4 inch increments
•Top Speed Limiter 25 - 75 MPH in 5 MPH increments, 81 to 255 MPH to match speed rated tires

Note: the transmission shift firmness is based on the power tuning level selected and the torque output of the engine at that level

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Old 05-17-2010, 06:08 PM
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the hypertech compared to stock yeah its great, but the hypertech compared to a SCT w/ custom tunes or just a SCT period is worthless, the SCT will blow away the hypertech anyday in my book, and i'm sure in about everyone else's on here too
 
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:43 PM
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There are no shift point or rev features added because it can't do it.


Hypertech, how does your programmer correct the speedo/odometer, I don't see any other programmers capable of that. I thought the only way was to get the superlift Tru-speed.
 
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:26 AM
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i think it just has you enter tire size, the superchip and edge can do it also i think?
 
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:22 AM
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As per your request please see notes below copied from our web site. Please feel free to visit any time at Performance is our Passion - Hypertech for other information as well or let me know your question and I will do my best to answer as soon as possible. Thank You for your interest. Speedometer Calibrator If you’ve installed tires that are larger or smaller than original equipment tires, or if you have installed a ring and pinion gear set with a different rear gear ratio, the Speedometer Calibrator allows you to re-program for correct speedometer and odometer readings, as well as correct part-throttle shifting. The vehicle’s computer calculates your vehicle’s speed based on the diameter of the stock tires. If you’ve installed taller or shorter tires, or changed the rear gear ratio, the vehicle’s computer doesn’t know how fast your vehicle is going. As a result, the automatic transmission may not shift correctly and the speedometer readings will not be accurate (as required by law). How Do We Tune? Power Tuning is a procedure that Hypertech invented and developed to improve the performance and efficiency of computer-controlled vehicles. An internal combustion engine needs air, fuel, and spark, the familiar "Combustion Triangle". Hypertech Power Tuning optimizes these three elements to produce maximum performance. An engine's power output is directly proportional to the amount of air and fuel that it can burn. Hypertech Power Tuning maximizes engine performance by burning the air/fuel mixture as efficiently as possible, thereby extracting maximum power. Power Tuning replaces the stock calibrations in the onboard computers used in late-model cars and trucks. These complex programs control important engine functions such as spark timing and fuel delivery. The only way to modify fuel delivery and spark timing to increase power is to optimize the tuning information supplied to the computer. This is exactly what Hypertech Power Tuning does. It is a slow, demanding, expensive process, but it is the only way to optimize engine tuning. Only Hypertech has the personnel, the custom equipment, and the dedication to do it...for all tuning products. The Art and Science of Power Tuning The team of engineers and technicians at our R&D center in Memphis uses two computerized chassis dynamometers to develop the most powerful tuning programs possible. First they experimentally adjust the spark timing to obtain the highest torque and power readings at a given engine rpm. Then they adjust the air/fuel ratio to obtain the highest possible power and torque readings that an optimized air/fuel mixture can produce. After the spark timing and air/fuel ratio for that particular engine speed have been optimized, the rpm is increased to the next point and the entire procedure is repeated again. The process continues, point by point, up to the engine's maximum speed. This technique is called experimental, point-by-point curve fitting. There is no more effective way to power tune an engine. Hypertech Power Tuning calibrations are extensively road tested under "real world" driving conditions to verify their performance. The result: Power gains you can feel and dependability you can trust! The results can be very impressive. For example, our Max Energy Power Programmer for Dodge Cummins 5.9L HO Diesels produced a gain of 285 ft./lbs. torque and 174 horsepower without opening the hood! How Power Tuning Works The factories tune for average drivers who might buy low-octane gasoline and lug the engine. Our calibrations are engineered for drivers who care about performance and use premium-grade fuel. Gains of 10 to 20 horsepower with 3 to 7 tenths of a second improvement in acceleration times from 0 to 70 mph are typical - some improvements are even greater. However, some applications can enjoy tuning specifically for regular fuel. You can check on these applications by clicking on Dodge, Ford, or GM to view our feature comparison charts. Hypertech Power Tuning makes trucks and sport utility vehicles come alive, too. These drivers will have more power for climbing hills, hauling heavy loads, and accelerating onto freeways. Power Tuning is an exact science. Much of the equipment we use was designed and built by Hypertech's engineers specifically for software engineering and high-performance engine tuning. We don't do "generic" tuning at Hypertech - we power tune to optimize performance for specific applications. Our advanced technology allows us to store a huge amount of information in a package that fits in the palm of your hand. Hypertech's Power Programmer contains numerous Power Tuning programs. When you connect the Power Programmer to a vehicle, its "smart" program instantly recognizes the vehicle's powertrain by reading its Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). 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The SCT also asks for tire revs per mile, and the custom tunes are written for your gear ratios, but it still can't correct speed on the dash, it is merely for transmission tuning, not actual correction. It sounds similar to what the hypertech does.

I didn't read the whole reply by Hypertech because I stopped once it started talking about spark timing. Obviously just copied from their website, and it probably does fix speedo readings on some trucks, but I still don't think it will do our trucks. I've yet to see any programmer that will. Last I knew, the tru-speed was the only way. (I know there is another similar product out, but I can't remember the name of it.)
 
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Originally Posted by harley-kid
ok i have an 05 6.0 with 4'' exhaust stock filter....etc....my buddy has a 04 and another 00 ford diesel ...they both have a hypertech in-line tunner and love it.....my question is who els here has one and why so many of you like the sct-tuner ???I want something i can unplug if i have to take it to a dealer for something ..what about the other brands bully dog the preditor etc????let me know your thought....I want mild till i get head studs and egt delete...
Let me tell you what I have learned in 4 years of owning my 6.0L, if you THINK that you are going to want to upgrade later, save your money and do it FIRST! PERIOD! 3 lifts and 2 exhuast systems taught me that.

That being said, I use an Edge Juice Platinum, much to Mdub's chargrin, I am pretty happy with it. I was willing to for go the cutom tune for the ability to switch between 6 generic tunes and have gauges. AVOID anything that advertises smoke! If all you want is a smoker, sell your truck now and get it over with.

Don't rely solely on our answers, figure out what you want, contact the parts manufacturers and present your questions. From there, make your decision. That's how I got my Edge and it worked out well for me.

I found that taking the front off of the air box and adding an AiRaid filter worked just as well as an $250 aftermarket CAI.
 
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Karls03
Let me tell you what I have learned in 4 years of owning my 6.0L, if you THINK that you are going to want to upgrade later, save your money and do it FIRST! PERIOD! 3 lifts and 2 exhuast systems taught me that.

That being said, I use an Edge Juice Platinum, much to Mdub's chargrin, I am pretty happy with it. I was willing to for go the cutom tune for the ability to switch between 6 generic tunes and have gauges. AVOID anything that advertises smoke! If all you want is a smoker, sell your truck now and get it over with.

Don't rely solely on our answers, figure out what you want, contact the parts manufacturers and present your questions. From there, make your decision. That's how I got my Edge and it worked out well for me.

I found that taking the front off of the air box and adding an AiRaid filter worked just as well as an $250 aftermarket CAI.

I just want to add a couple things, though I agree with most of what you're saying. First, switchable "chips" or "programmers" are a bad idea on the 6.0 because of the learning process that the transmission needs to go through. It is the one downside to the electronically controlled transmissions.

Secondly, Karls03, have you checked your air intake temperatures between your intake and the stock setup? You can datalog that stuff with an SCT...
 


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