I've been reading where california has adopted a smog law for the light duty diesel? from what I can tell it's a money maker for the state. I don't know how they will inspect or what they will look for.. I E. computer up grades, hardware upgrades, emissions removal?? are there any other states currently doing this to the light duty diesel? if they do a sniffer test it might be easier to fool then a computer check. I'm currently in the process of an EGR delete on my 04 6.0 so that my truck will be reliable once again...(not that it ever was) I think the starting years will start at '98 and up with trucks in the 7000 to 15000 gvw.? I don't know for sure but it seems pretty spooky. has any body been watching this or does any body have a better clue as to whats going on and how it may affect us. even bio diesel I've read wont pass the test...it's the old politician shuffle with a twist, one step forward three steps back do a quick doo-see-doo and empty your wallet out. our bro in office said that there would change.... boy was he right. this looks like a good fight, any trust worthy attorneys out there ???

 

It should be a no-brainer that light duty diesels would get a smog in Ca. It is the most polluted state in America, thus deflating your "politian shuffle" theory. Arizona has been smogging diesels since before I left there in 2006. As of 2006 when I bought my Super Duty, it required smog in Reno and Las Vegas. So this isn't all together be the fault of "our bro in office". In fact, diesel smog requirements were in effect LONG before he was elected.

Now then, all snide jabs aside, most newer vehicles are smogged using the OBD port (that's how it was done when I left AZ in 2006 on my '04 GT). Anyway, if you do the EGR delete, you will need something to tell the computer that it is there. I say this because a cat removal required the use of a MIL eliminator in place of the aft O2 and was promised to pass smog by AMP Performance in Phoenix. Also, said programmer should not leave a "foot print" that the ECM has been altered. My Superchips needed to be reset to OEM before going to the smog station.

Yes I am comparing a Mustang to a Power Stroke, but they are both OBD II compliant, so it makes sense. However, I will pass on your concerns to a member that owns a hopped up diesel and lives in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

 

if you can grab the new issue of diesel world (maybe diesel power) and they have an article about what it means and how to help ur truck pass

one thing that sounded good is taking ur 6.0 to a gm dealership to get inspected since they will have no clue where the egr is or what it looks like

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ya its in diesel power pg 98
basic summary of the article
"no one can tell if youre running aftermarket fuel injectors, pistons, rods, heads, or valvesprings. and if youve upgraded any or all of these things in an electronically controled diesel, aftermarket tuning can dial back the trucks power to pass a smoke opacity test."

recomendations to help pass

"buy stock appearing parts or parts advertised as replacements components. . . our advise: dont put that new, polished chrome compressor housing or powdercoated valve cover on. if anything, you want the engine bay to look as inconspicuious (and stock) as possible. . .remove your performance file from your trucks computer and return it to the stock calibration. if you have a dash-mounted monitor, wed remove that to. . . avoid vanity plates that say SMOKYA. . .take your truck down a gravel road to make a nice uniform coating of dust in the engine bay to act as camouflage. . .weve ((diesel power)) been told that factory-appearing exhausts will pass, regardless of diameter, as long as the catalytic converter is in place. . .larger diameter down pipes shouldnt be cause for concern because they cant be easily spotted. . .it would be safe to say that. . .hood stacks and exhaust stacks r out, as dpf deletes on '08 and later trucks. . .another loophole will be to take your ford to a gm shop. techs will have little idea where to look for an egr cooler or egr valve on a 6.0L power stroke. and on the other side of the coin, you could take your duramax to a ford dealership, where the might not even discover that the stock turbo has been replaced by say, a garrett GT4202 turbo. . .have your truck inspected on a windey day. . .if you live in an area that typically experiences windy conditions, youll be in luck during the smoke opacity portion of the test which is pass or fail (if smoke hovers for more than 4 seconds after a snap test you fail) and its completely at the technicians discretion."

thats the highlights...and they gave a list of states with new laws by county but im to lazy to type that to.

on a side not (()) means that i added that and its not in the article

 

I realize that "kaaleeforniaa" is late to this party, and that other states have had smog laws in affect long before "our bro in office arrived". but the way that this state operates one could only guess at how the test would be done. yes I've heard the stories of taking to a different brand dealership might help in that they "might" not know what to look for. same as my cars I try not to make it look so apparent that I've hot rodded my ride. I have a 4" turbo back pipe with the converter still in place, I'm leaving the EGR solenoid in place when I do my delete just to keep things looking right. I haven't added any performance programs to my truck. all in all I think it would pass. I take it the snap test reads particulates left in the air near the exhaust pipe opening after a loaded run on the dyno, the windy day thing sounds good ? the only problem that I see is the levels of NOX at partial throttle if they put the truck on the rollers and load it up it might fail? ( if they put it on the rollers) here in the the land of fruits and nuts depending on which part of the county you live in or which county you live in period, they can either do the sniff test or put you up on the machine. mostly the rural areas get the sniffer for the test? I guess only time will tell. and in this crazy state of ours I think it's all about the mighty $$$ any ways.

 

ya by no means do i know exactly what all of the stuff means i am just quoting what i have read because in tx (houston area) diesels rnt even sniffed...every place ive been to just looks at the basics (seatbelts horn light and all that)

 

yes sir we dont get the wand up our

 

thank god cause as it stands i dont think id make it......

 

well my biggest concern is the tail sniffer, I don't plan on hot rodding this thing just some simple mods to help keep the reliability factor in place. I only tow about 6-10k worth of weight not enought to worry about hurting this thing, if I want to put on a tire smoke show I'll roll my hot rod out of the shop and do it.. But with the EGR removed my NOX will be possibly too high to pass at the part throttle part that the test make you do? I'd love to have 500 reliable ponys under the hood of my daily driver but then I know I'd fail... speaking of high HP how does the 5 speed torque shift handle it. I've heard that at those levels your asking for BIG problems like split torque converters, broken main drive hubs, cracked tail shaft housings ??? just wondering. ON the cummins 12 valve I had I know that I wasn't pushing that much power maybe 350 hp. at the most but I guess the torque was too much for that poor little tranny..as I kept burning up 4th gear same thing not that much weight about 6-10k and I would take it out of OD on any type of grade. still had problems. sold that good ol truck for my Found On Road Dead. seriouly I'm a died in the wool ford fan I've had some kind of ford in my garage since I started to drive... but this truck has me rethinking some things... maybe ford didn't have the light bulb on when they drew the 6.0 up with international.

 

you're a little behind on the times if you're just now realizing ford didn't have the light bulb on when the 6.0L came into play, actually i don't even think there was a light bulb, it went MIA from the conception of the engine

 

they where trying to use a match to make enough light to see when they drew up the 6.0......ya...um...i think the 6.0 was made back in 1900 they blew the dust off it and threw and egr on......