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94cummins12v 12-21-2008 09:32 PM

look what happened to me today
 
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this is what driving up a hill in 4 wheel drive at 25mph will do to your truck with 500hp:argh:

Benjamin 12-21-2008 09:35 PM

looks like you might have a little bit of chain slop.....



ouch that sux..... time to get one that is better....

lilfroger 12-21-2008 09:47 PM

owie owie owie

Time to upgrade

94cummins12v 12-21-2008 09:54 PM

well i need to get her up by the 7th for a trip to seattle any ideas on a replacement

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was driving at 25mph had a really bad shking for about 5 secounds then herd a boom and lost everything:argh:

MotorOilMcCall 12-21-2008 10:04 PM

There was a NP271 in the For Sale section... You'd impress me if you broke one of those. I think it bolts right up, but you need to have the driveshafts lengthened/shortened.

biged681985 12-21-2008 10:07 PM

i bet that made a nice lil sound. good luck on gettin it fixed man.

wildbill 12-21-2008 10:08 PM

:ouch::ouch::ouch:

busta 12-21-2008 10:15 PM

ya do this when ya looked :argh::argh::argh::argh:

dang man that sucks big time

Nitelord 12-21-2008 10:17 PM

Ouch, that's a nasty looking hole.

Did you find a replacement?

94cummins12v 12-21-2008 10:29 PM

no luck on a replacement money is tight right now since i just got done wspending $2600 on head work and studs and track bar so cant be to expensive the snow was redish purple behind me when it happened. don have to worry about shortening the driveline had to do that last year after swaping axles

underpressure! 12-21-2008 10:42 PM

Ever had any problems with that t-case before that happened?

94cummins12v 12-21-2008 11:04 PM

nope never yet never did any 4x4 bossted launches nothin, rarely go muddin with it and only enguage it to get moving in the snow, im still at a loss for words on how it happened, took it off and inspected it in may when i upgraded my clutch but thats it

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would a "NP241c transfer case" with a gm 27 sline shaft work on my truck?

Dr. Evil 12-21-2008 11:57 PM

Thats a major ouch.

Sounds like you use your 4x4 a fair bit - you might as well get a NP205 and be done with it. Sorry, I cant supply much more info than that. You can buy lower aftermarket gears than the factory ones.

94cummins12v 12-22-2008 12:21 AM

why wound i want a np205 thats smaller that my 241:humm:

Dr. Evil 12-22-2008 12:23 AM

Because its cast iron, all gear drive, and theres no chain to stretch. Oh yeah, its just about indestrictible.

Its true - size doesnt mean anything. :w2:

94cummins12v 12-22-2008 12:26 AM

ya but would it hold up to 500hp, will it bolt right into place of a five speed and can it handle 20k pounds of towing?:humm:

Dr. Evil 12-22-2008 12:30 AM

Im not expert here but I believe they are way stronger than a chain driven case. The disadvantage is that the gear could be lower. But like I said, there are lower gears avaialble from the aftermarket.

If you want bulletproof - thats what you want.

Spend a bit of time reading up on them and decide for yourself.

94cummins12v 12-22-2008 10:52 PM

well if its better as you say than that will rull out me getting a 271 which is way out of my price range thats for the advice bud im mean SIR:argh:

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what about throwing a built dana 300 transfer case on her my dad has one on his jeep with the nv4500 5 speed trany those are a few hundred bucks

Camotanker 12-22-2008 11:01 PM

holy crap!

94cummins12v 12-23-2008 12:53 AM

yep i did a number on it

Sea97Stroker 12-23-2008 06:57 AM

Damn Dude..Nice Work.....:argh:

Diesel Dave 2 12-23-2008 07:59 AM

Heard theres a snap ring that lets loose..on the non HD transfer cases.

RSWORDS 12-23-2008 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 257053)
Im not expert here but I believe they are way stronger than a chain driven case. The disadvantage is that the gear could be lower. But like I said, there are lower gears avaialble from the aftermarket.

If you want bulletproof - thats what you want.

Spend a bit of time reading up on them and decide for yourself.

Doc as far as I remember the lower gear set is only for the chevy 205 case.
And yes they are probably the strongest t-case made. Nut they only have a 1.97:1 ratio. You can get one off a 1st gen cummins.

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Originally Posted by 94cummins12v (Post 257050)
ya but would it hold up to 500hp, Without a doubt, cant say that about the stocker can we? will it bolt right into place of a five speed that I dont know. You can make it work thoughand can it handle 20k pounds of towing?:humm:It will laugh at it

:U:

xzaq103 12-23-2008 03:33 PM

All i got to say is EASY KILLA!

I think somthing musta been wrong with your t-case With all of the 2nd gens out there pulling and doing 4wd boosted launches . Im not saying there the strongest but you would think it would take more than 500hp and a hill to break it.

The 205 is stout... and heavy :humm:

MotorOilMcCall 12-23-2008 06:10 PM

You can't use the NP241C, it has a different input shaft that won't mate up with the 29 spline output on your trans. Same reason you can't (easily) bolt up an NP205... Those are even more difficult. You have to get the case machined to allow for the MUCH larger input shaft (23 spline to 29 spline), and the bigger bearing thats required.

It can be done, but you're gonna drop $2k between parts, machining, and labor... drop $500-800 off that if you do it yourself.

94cummins12v 12-24-2008 12:53 AM

well my dad has a dana 300 with 180* flop left and right to it married to a nv4500 off a 93 cummins pushing 600hp out a chevy 454 that he uses as a rock crawler

dukeboy_318 12-24-2008 07:10 PM

yeah, in a much lighter rig with less torque, your truck probably out wieghes that jeep by at least 3k lbs and has a shit ton more torque, the 205 would handle it, but like stated above, youll have some mating issues plus, if you still want the part time 4x4, id go with the 271 that and less work to put it in. :pca1:

scottsjeeprolet 12-24-2008 07:40 PM

Getblown5.9 put in a 3rd gen tcase. Wasn't very hard, just needed to get a 3rd gen slip yoke and have the drive shaft worked on. You can PM him for details.

jasonw 12-24-2008 10:47 PM

What you did seems to be pretty common. There was a guy locally selling 3 HD cases that were busted all to hell. I've seen 4 or 5 in person. Sometimes a part fails prematurely, one was from the chain breaking. Just my thoughts, but if you were to go with another 241HD case, you'd probably have to supply yours for the core charge; which I'm guessing could be from $3-500. Might as well go with the 271. I'll dig up some pics to show a side-by-side difference. I've seen quite a few for sale with (I believe) a 23-spline input. The difference is night and day, though. Very beefy those 271s are.

If you ARE in the market for another 241HD case, a guy in Evanston, WY is selling a 94 2500 5-sp. (minus the transmission) for $1800. He took the tranny, but everything else is there. I think his ad said something about parting it out. I'll see if I can find it, if you're interested.

xzaq103 12-24-2008 11:27 PM

Last I heard Skynyrd had a 3rd gen case for sale....

94cummins12v 12-25-2008 12:22 AM

ya i talked to skynyrd already but $800 is basically way out of my price range

MotorOilMcCall 12-25-2008 08:30 AM

Well you better find a way to get it in your budget... A 241 rebuild is about $1K, and you'll need a new case to go with it.

94cummins12v 12-26-2008 01:05 PM

yep i know that already if it was in the summer season i could have boughten it already but with christmas the money wasnt all there

05cumminsdrw 12-26-2008 02:29 PM

hey 94cummins12v:pm:

94cummins12v 12-26-2008 07:29 PM

replyed:pca1:

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found the tag in the road were the case broke for some reason it is a 241 DLD, ratio 272, tag number 52105370. why would there be a 241 dld not a 241 dhd on a cummins, what is the difference

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is there any difference in bolting up a 241 dld off a auto than a 241dld off a five speed

dukeboy_318 12-27-2008 07:28 PM

alot of it has to do with the spline count and the thickness of the gears inside the case. the DHDs are a little stronger then the DLDs and can usually survive a long time even with moderate mods done to the truck

94cummins12v 12-27-2008 08:07 PM

what would have to be done to make a 241 DHD off a automatic match up to were a 241 DLD manual was

Whit 12-27-2008 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by 94cummins12v (Post 259491)
what would have to be done to make a 241 DHD off a automatic match up to were a 241 DLD manual was

I was told just swap the input shaft from the DLD over to the DHD

if thats what ya want I can get a rebuilt one to you next day cheap ..........I will meet ya half way..........PM me

94cummins12v 12-27-2008 08:32 PM

pm sent whit:U:

Whit 12-27-2008 08:51 PM

check yer PM's dude:ph:


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