Mercedes OM617 Diesel Glow Plug Relay Wiring Schematic Diagram
#21
Did the Cherokee not come with a/c or did you not re-use the 4.0 radiator?
You put the oil cooler in the bumper right? Did you consider using the MB radiator and placing the oil cooler beside it like in the MB donor car?
The MB tack in my donor is working. What did you think it would take to put it in the Cherokee dash? Sure would like to figure out how to make all the jeep guages work with the MB motor.
I think the cruise on the pre '91 xj and mj with the mechanical speedo is independant of the engine computer and will work by simply adapting the throttle control cable from the servo to the MB throttle linkage.
What did you do for throttle linkage?
You put the oil cooler in the bumper right? Did you consider using the MB radiator and placing the oil cooler beside it like in the MB donor car?
The MB tack in my donor is working. What did you think it would take to put it in the Cherokee dash? Sure would like to figure out how to make all the jeep guages work with the MB motor.
I think the cruise on the pre '91 xj and mj with the mechanical speedo is independant of the engine computer and will work by simply adapting the throttle control cable from the servo to the MB throttle linkage.
What did you do for throttle linkage?
#23
Ben - thanks for the link.
I'm pretty confident the stock cruise on my MJ will work with the repower as I believe it to be independant of the gasser's electronics. Its my understanding in jeeps that around 1991 they switched from a mechanical speedo to an electronic speedo. The cruise with the mechanical speedo has a sensor in the speedo line under the dash that sends the speed signal to the cruise electronic control unit which activates the servo. It appears its as simple as adapting the servo throttle line to the OM617 throttle linkage and supplying vaccum to the mj's vaccum reserve.
The only tach resolution I've read about yet is to take a working tach out of the MB including the dash portion and transplant it into the MJ. I wish somebody smarter than me would figure out how to adapt the stock Jeep tach to the MB sending unit.
Have you seen anyone yet to have working a/c?
BTW, I've included your suggestion of adding the starter solenoid to the MB glowplug system into my build plan. I really appreciate your input.
I'm pretty confident the stock cruise on my MJ will work with the repower as I believe it to be independant of the gasser's electronics. Its my understanding in jeeps that around 1991 they switched from a mechanical speedo to an electronic speedo. The cruise with the mechanical speedo has a sensor in the speedo line under the dash that sends the speed signal to the cruise electronic control unit which activates the servo. It appears its as simple as adapting the servo throttle line to the OM617 throttle linkage and supplying vaccum to the mj's vaccum reserve.
The only tach resolution I've read about yet is to take a working tach out of the MB including the dash portion and transplant it into the MJ. I wish somebody smarter than me would figure out how to adapt the stock Jeep tach to the MB sending unit.
Have you seen anyone yet to have working a/c?
BTW, I've included your suggestion of adding the starter solenoid to the MB glowplug system into my build plan. I really appreciate your input.
Last edited by Walkenvol; 12-03-2010 at 05:22 PM.
#24
Did the Cherokee not come with a/c or did you not re-use the 4.0 radiator?
You put the oil cooler in the bumper right? Did you consider using the MB radiator and placing the oil cooler beside it like in the MB donor car?
The MB tack in my donor is working. What did you think it would take to put it in the Cherokee dash? Sure would like to figure out how to make all the jeep guages work with the MB motor.
I think the cruise on the pre '91 xj and mj with the mechanical speedo is independant of the engine computer and will work by simply adapting the throttle control cable from the servo to the MB throttle linkage.
What did you do for throttle linkage?
You put the oil cooler in the bumper right? Did you consider using the MB radiator and placing the oil cooler beside it like in the MB donor car?
The MB tack in my donor is working. What did you think it would take to put it in the Cherokee dash? Sure would like to figure out how to make all the jeep guages work with the MB motor.
I think the cruise on the pre '91 xj and mj with the mechanical speedo is independant of the engine computer and will work by simply adapting the throttle control cable from the servo to the MB throttle linkage.
What did you do for throttle linkage?
#25
FTE - Thanks for the feedback as your build thread is one that I'm drawing heavily from.
From your experience, if your cherokee had been a 4.0 and you retained the 4.0 radiator, could you have removed part of the front bracing beside the radiator and placed the MB oil cooler there?
Also had a question about your steering. You tied the front wheels together with a solid drag link and lowered the F150 steering box down for tie rod clearance. From the pictures I couldn't tell the specifics of the passenger wheel concerning how the tie rod and drag link are connected. Could you provide some more detail?
Also on your panhard bar, it appears to be modified to clear the oil pan. What exactly was the modification? Did you lower the frame mount or put a larger bend in the bar for clearance?
From your experience, if your cherokee had been a 4.0 and you retained the 4.0 radiator, could you have removed part of the front bracing beside the radiator and placed the MB oil cooler there?
Also had a question about your steering. You tied the front wheels together with a solid drag link and lowered the F150 steering box down for tie rod clearance. From the pictures I couldn't tell the specifics of the passenger wheel concerning how the tie rod and drag link are connected. Could you provide some more detail?
Also on your panhard bar, it appears to be modified to clear the oil pan. What exactly was the modification? Did you lower the frame mount or put a larger bend in the bar for clearance?
#26
FTE - Thanks for the feedback as your build thread is one that I'm drawing heavily from.
From your experience, if your cherokee had been a 4.0 and you retained the 4.0 radiator, could you have removed part of the front bracing beside the radiator and placed the MB oil cooler there?
Also had a question about your steering. You tied the front wheels together with a solid drag link and lowered the F150 steering box down for tie rod clearance. From the pictures I couldn't tell the specifics of the passenger wheel concerning how the tie rod and drag link are connected. Could you provide some more detail?
Also on your panhard bar, it appears to be modified to clear the oil pan. What exactly was the modification? Did you lower the frame mount or put a larger bend in the bar for clearance?
From your experience, if your cherokee had been a 4.0 and you retained the 4.0 radiator, could you have removed part of the front bracing beside the radiator and placed the MB oil cooler there?
Also had a question about your steering. You tied the front wheels together with a solid drag link and lowered the F150 steering box down for tie rod clearance. From the pictures I couldn't tell the specifics of the passenger wheel concerning how the tie rod and drag link are connected. Could you provide some more detail?
Also on your panhard bar, it appears to be modified to clear the oil pan. What exactly was the modification? Did you lower the frame mount or put a larger bend in the bar for clearance?
#27
FTE - thanks for the response.
Make sure I follow you correctly.
The stock xj configuration has the tie rod running from the pitman arm on the steering box to the passenger wheel. The drag link to the drivers wheel ties into the tie rod toward the passenger side.
Your setup has the drag link running from wheel to wheel and the tie rod connecting to the drag link 6" from the passenger wheel?
The older solid axles I've messed with have both the tie rod and drag link terminating on the passenger wheel which stikes me as a more solid arrangement. Wonder if there is a way to modify an xj / mj front axle to create the 2 terminating points on the passenger side so that the DL and TR are not tied together?
Make sure I follow you correctly.
The stock xj configuration has the tie rod running from the pitman arm on the steering box to the passenger wheel. The drag link to the drivers wheel ties into the tie rod toward the passenger side.
Your setup has the drag link running from wheel to wheel and the tie rod connecting to the drag link 6" from the passenger wheel?
The older solid axles I've messed with have both the tie rod and drag link terminating on the passenger wheel which stikes me as a more solid arrangement. Wonder if there is a way to modify an xj / mj front axle to create the 2 terminating points on the passenger side so that the DL and TR are not tied together?
#28
FTE - thanks for the response.
Make sure I follow you correctly.
The stock xj configuration has the tie rod running from the pitman arm on the steering box to the passenger wheel. The drag link to the drivers wheel ties into the tie rod toward the passenger side.
Your setup has the drag link running from wheel to wheel and the tie rod connecting to the drag link 6" from the passenger wheel?
The older solid axles I've messed with have both the tie rod and drag link terminating on the passenger wheel which stikes me as a more solid arrangement. Wonder if there is a way to modify an xj / mj front axle to create the 2 terminating points on the passenger side so that the DL and TR are not tied together?
Make sure I follow you correctly.
The stock xj configuration has the tie rod running from the pitman arm on the steering box to the passenger wheel. The drag link to the drivers wheel ties into the tie rod toward the passenger side.
Your setup has the drag link running from wheel to wheel and the tie rod connecting to the drag link 6" from the passenger wheel?
The older solid axles I've messed with have both the tie rod and drag link terminating on the passenger wheel which stikes me as a more solid arrangement. Wonder if there is a way to modify an xj / mj front axle to create the 2 terminating points on the passenger side so that the DL and TR are not tied together?