Mercedes OM617 5 cyl Turbo Diesel engine swap to Jeep Wrangler YJ conversion
#61
FTE or jeep-dsl, I am interested in more info and possibly pics of the over-boost valve conversion used to operate the vacuum fuel shutoff. I think it's a cool idea!
I too am in the middle of a 82 300sd swap into a 89 Wrangler. One big positive for me is running a two tank WVO self made kit in the soon to be completed swap. I haven't fabbed a WVO kit yet still working out the details. On drawback to this Wrangler is it's an automatic and I really want a AX-15 5 speed. If I convert to 5 speed will the AX-15 bolt up to my T-case?
jeep-dsl I will be buying an adapter kit from you soon!
I too am in the middle of a 82 300sd swap into a 89 Wrangler. One big positive for me is running a two tank WVO self made kit in the soon to be completed swap. I haven't fabbed a WVO kit yet still working out the details. On drawback to this Wrangler is it's an automatic and I really want a AX-15 5 speed. If I convert to 5 speed will the AX-15 bolt up to my T-case?
jeep-dsl I will be buying an adapter kit from you soon!
#62
Being able to withstand abuse better is not a quality.
Well,
1: Its illegal.
2: You can't drive on our roads.
3: As said before, its extremely harmful to the engine.
Incorrect. Performance modifications do not involve pumping an acidic chemical thats 10% garbage through the engine.
Well,
1: Its illegal.
2: You can't drive on our roads.
3: As said before, its extremely harmful to the engine.
Incorrect. Performance modifications do not involve pumping an acidic chemical thats 10% garbage through the engine.
A little reading and knowledge is not a bad thing.
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This thread is about OM617 into a jeep wrangler.
WVO is the ****! My reason of going WVO is because i dont' want to support the petroleum companies if i don't have to. they have been taking money from me forever. Back in 2008 a gallon of gas was $4.50+ that hurted my wallet. I was looking for alternate source of transportation and or fuel/electricity. I found out that my diesel could run on Veggie oil.
I never thought about it being illegal, or pumping acid through my system or any of those thoughts. I was just thinking about finances and when money is tight, i seek free used vegetable oil to provide me fuel to move around. I have been using WVO and veggie alternatively for almost 2 years now. i dont' have any problem what so ever with my engine. There is a little bit of inconvenience of picking up used oil and doing the processing. sometimes, i just buy 5 gallon deep fryer oil and just run it directly.
wvo + om617 + Jeep wrangler = awesome wrangler
WVO is the ****! My reason of going WVO is because i dont' want to support the petroleum companies if i don't have to. they have been taking money from me forever. Back in 2008 a gallon of gas was $4.50+ that hurted my wallet. I was looking for alternate source of transportation and or fuel/electricity. I found out that my diesel could run on Veggie oil.
I never thought about it being illegal, or pumping acid through my system or any of those thoughts. I was just thinking about finances and when money is tight, i seek free used vegetable oil to provide me fuel to move around. I have been using WVO and veggie alternatively for almost 2 years now. i dont' have any problem what so ever with my engine. There is a little bit of inconvenience of picking up used oil and doing the processing. sometimes, i just buy 5 gallon deep fryer oil and just run it directly.
wvo + om617 + Jeep wrangler = awesome wrangler
One fellow out here in Va actually got a batch of WVO where the mom'n'pop chinese restaurant had hired a new guy who tossed the recent oven-cleaning solution into the WVO barrel. When the fellow out here picked it up and ran it thru--- it did what degreasers do. It stripped his internal lubrication and siezed the engine. KNOW YOUR WVO SUPPLIER!!
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More info? I have serious concerns about the use of the AX-15 with diesel torque.
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#63
The AX-15 is pretty solid - putting Cummins-level torque behind it might be asking for problems, but an OM617 shouldn't be that hard on it. A well massaged 350 puts out an easy 400 lb-ft if you want it to and an AX-15 can handle that.
#64
I've known that an AX-15 is the upgrade for the AX-5, but wasn't familiar with HOW MUCH it would upgrade.
I'm familiar with the T-18/NP435 trannies, as well as their downside -- they're actually 3 driving speeds with a granny low crawler gear. Not really ideal for fuel consumption savings.
#65
Jeep-dsl, you are one of my heroes. Great job with the conversion. I want one; will call on Monday.
Rab475, could you please elaborate a little on your t18 idea.
The rest of you, thanks for all the gearing info and other constructive idea. I am actually considering starting with a conversion of my 82 SD to a manual transmission. The search for ideas is what led to you site, guys, which I am grateful for. I measured the distance between the shifter square opening from an early 240d with a manual and it came to 33 inches from back of engine to shifter opening and 29 inches from back of flywheel to shifter opening.
What 5 speed would you guys think might fit in there, considering the relative thickness of an adapter plate? I might go with jeep-dsl plate, but remains to be known, whether it will fit or not. Judging by the position of the square shift opening, the potential transmission could be slightly longer, for my own personal preference, hence more than 33 inches, with some well cutting, off course!
Any input would be highly appreciated.
Regarding the use of veggie; we need to accept the fact that it might produce carbon deposits, which might, in turn, interfere with the normal friction of engine parts. Thinking that low tech veggie would outperform years of advancement in lubrication technology might be overly hopeful. Driving for free, temporarily, is priceless.
There is also an offset of emissions; one beneficial and one harmful! Nox vs. …!
Jeep-dsl, please see if you could give me the dimension between back of the OM and shifter.
Tx to all.
Rab475, could you please elaborate a little on your t18 idea.
The rest of you, thanks for all the gearing info and other constructive idea. I am actually considering starting with a conversion of my 82 SD to a manual transmission. The search for ideas is what led to you site, guys, which I am grateful for. I measured the distance between the shifter square opening from an early 240d with a manual and it came to 33 inches from back of engine to shifter opening and 29 inches from back of flywheel to shifter opening.
What 5 speed would you guys think might fit in there, considering the relative thickness of an adapter plate? I might go with jeep-dsl plate, but remains to be known, whether it will fit or not. Judging by the position of the square shift opening, the potential transmission could be slightly longer, for my own personal preference, hence more than 33 inches, with some well cutting, off course!
Any input would be highly appreciated.
Regarding the use of veggie; we need to accept the fact that it might produce carbon deposits, which might, in turn, interfere with the normal friction of engine parts. Thinking that low tech veggie would outperform years of advancement in lubrication technology might be overly hopeful. Driving for free, temporarily, is priceless.
There is also an offset of emissions; one beneficial and one harmful! Nox vs. …!
Jeep-dsl, please see if you could give me the dimension between back of the OM and shifter.
Tx to all.
#66
I have 410's and 30in tires, the tallest tire I belive you can use with this motor, gear,and od. I an toying with switching to a 29in tire to get it in the "sweet spot" more often. I am finding that in 5th and locked up down the freeway, anything below 60 and it will bogg down and want to downshift. It really LOVES 70+ and doesn't even start to run out of power above 90. So I think a set of 235-75 15's would be perfect, and I think my mileage will go up as well(it's @ 25+ mixed running hard)
Do you know what your RPMs are when doing 65MPH?
I'm running 35"s w/4.56 gears = approx 2900 RPMs
I'm contemplating dropping down to 4.10 gears.
BTW,
The other day I calculated my MPG, got 20 on the highway....and that was with a leaky delivery valve (didn't notice the leak, until the following day) :p
need to source those copper washers.
#67
FTE,
Do you know what your RPMs are when doing 65MPH?
I'm running 35"s w/4.56 gears = approx 2900 RPMs
I'm contemplating dropping down to 4.10 gears.
BTW,
The other day I calculated my MPG, got 20 on the highway....and that was with a leaky delivery valve (didn't notice the leak, until the following day) :p
need to source those copper washers.
Do you know what your RPMs are when doing 65MPH?
I'm running 35"s w/4.56 gears = approx 2900 RPMs
I'm contemplating dropping down to 4.10 gears.
BTW,
The other day I calculated my MPG, got 20 on the highway....and that was with a leaky delivery valve (didn't notice the leak, until the following day) :p
need to source those copper washers.