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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeep-dsl
We are gathering parts for the WVO conversion now.
You've got it running well, why do you want to abuse it now?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
You've got it running well, why do you want to abuse it now?
For many people, the entire point of going with a OM617 is for the superior WVO characteristics of this engine. If you aren't planning to go with WVO, a ubiquitous Chevy 350 would be a far better and easier choice. There are a lot of OM617 turbo diesels around that have outlived the bodies that they were shipped in. They are excellent engines - and so far the best WVO engines by far. The question should be "Why NOT go with WVO?".

Don't even start to talk about engine abuse - aren't you the same guy that played around with cut delivery valves, modified IPs, bigger turbos and a host of other "abusive" mods? Not that I condemn you for it - it's been interesting to see what kind of performance you can get out of that engine!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Great news!! I can't wait to do mine...
 
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselBurps
For many people, the entire point of going with a OM617 is for the superior WVO characteristics of this engine.
Being able to withstand abuse better is not a quality.

The question should be "Why NOT go with WVO?".
Well,

1: Its illegal.
2: You can't drive on our roads.
3: As said before, its extremely harmful to the engine.

Don't even start to talk about engine abuse - aren't you the same guy that played around with cut delivery valves, modified IPs, bigger turbos and a host of other "abusive" mods?
Incorrect. Performance modifications do not involve pumping an acidic chemical thats 10% garbage through the engine.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Has anyone converted a s-10 to a diesel platform?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
Being able to withstand abuse better is not a quality.
I said characteristic, but let's not argue the little details.

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Well,

1: Its illegal.
2: You can't drive on our roads.
3: As said before, its extremely harmful to the engine.
1. Illegal? More likely it is "grey area" and if you pay the taxes, it is considered completely legal in several states. My state didn't even consider pursuing it when I asked them about it.

2. So far I've had no trouble at all driving on any roads powering various vehicles with WVO. It has worked great.

3. Only if it is done improperly. A lot of people seem to do it improperly and they often have problems. Others are capable of figuring out how to make it work and drive for hundreds of thousands of miles without issue (and are still going strong). I've talked to several people that were able to destroy their diesels while burning diesel - usually through excessive idling. I've actually had more damage done with a tankful of diesel/water bought from a convenience store.

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
Incorrect. Performance modifications do not involve pumping an acidic chemical thats 10% garbage through the engine.
Acidic? Why would you pump an acidic chemical with garbage in it through your engine? This is misinformation that you are spreading. Perhaps you should consider some additional research into this matter.

Hey - wouldn't modifying your exhaust and EGR systems be considered "illegal"? Doing so means you cannot drive that vehicle on "our" roads. There isn't anything like performance modifications for doing harm to an engine... Whatever happened to those concerns?

Your concerns here are valid, but they have been addressed countless times by many people and resolutions for all of them have been found.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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This thread is about OM617 into a jeep wrangler.

WVO is the ****! My reason of going WVO is because i dont' want to support the petroleum companies if i don't have to. they have been taking money from me forever. Back in 2008 a gallon of gas was $4.50+ that hurted my wallet. I was looking for alternate source of transportation and or fuel/electricity. I found out that my diesel could run on Veggie oil.

I never thought about it being illegal, or pumping acid through my system or any of those thoughts. I was just thinking about finances and when money is tight, i seek free used vegetable oil to provide me fuel to move around. I have been using WVO and veggie alternatively for almost 2 years now. i dont' have any problem what so ever with my engine. There is a little bit of inconvenience of picking up used oil and doing the processing. sometimes, i just buy 5 gallon deep fryer oil and just run it directly.

wvo + om617 + Jeep wrangler = awesome wrangler
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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You are the man!I got the Cherokee for this swap 4 years ago, ouch! Life happened, but I finally got the engine over the summer, as soon as I have the money I'll get a kit or two, a 5 speed in my 300sd would make a world of difference!


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I can have more adapters made at my work. They cost about $340 dollars for the set, 1 crankshaft to flywheel adapter with machined pilot bushing and 1 engine block to bellhousing adapter. Thanks for tip on fuel shutoff i will try that this weekend.

As far as milege claims, I drive a 1982 300sd daily, it weighs the same as a 300d due to aluminum hood and trunk, and a few other parts, icky slushbox, I get a fairly consistant 24mpg in mixed driving, sometimes 23 or 25, best tank was a road trip at a touch over 29, looks like 65-70mph = 32mpg
 

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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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you can use a ford t18 trans and transfer case with $25 worth of machine work and no adapter plates. But you have to use a hyd throwout bearing
 
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Thats interesting idea, but the whole idea on this build was to be able to retain the stock drive train.
 
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