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Old 08-30-2010, 01:08 PM
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I asked this question on another forum but didnt get much help To make a long story short, 5 years ago I got my hands on a 94 single cab (my first diesel) had a kid and had to sell it. But I was hooked from then on. I bought a 2000 quad cab and that was fine untill I had my second kid you guys with a family know quad cabs don't work. So I sold that and got a screamin deal on a crew cab duramax. It was cool but I missed my cummins so i wound up trading it for a 1996 crew cab chevy with a solid front axle and a 12v. I lost my eye in an accident and got a bit of change and my wife said build your dream truck. Don't have to tell me twice. So here is the deal it has a nv4500 I love manuals something about rowing gears that makes me happy. I spoke to moonlight diesel and they said they can make it hold 550 to 600 hp with a dd clutch. So heres what I'm thinking 024 dv's, 5x16 injectors or (maybe ddp +90) whats better?, dps s400 twins, Hamilton cam, springs and retainers, ARP studs (will I be fine with the 450$ ones), fire rings and maybe water meth to clean the smoke up. I want to build this once and do it right I don't care if it costs a lil bit more. Is it possible to have a reliable 5 to 600 horse daily driver or am I being unreasonable also is a 4k GSK safe for stock rotating assembly. Also i don't want to "roll coal" it was cool when I was a kid ( 2 smoking tickets) but I feel it brings a bunch of unwanted negative attention to the diesel performance community. Thank you for all of your time please critique this and let me know.
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:13 PM
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let's start off with some specifics about the truck.

what year truck is the motor from?

does it have a P-7100 inline pump or a VE rotary pump?

what transmission and transfer case are you running in the truck?

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Old 08-30-2010, 01:41 PM
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its a 96 gmc k3500 with a 95 cummins manual engine with the nv4500 and the borg warner 4401 t-case
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:59 PM
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a 600 hp daily driver is very possible.
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:23 PM
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600 is about the limit for some people to DD. theres a big difference in a set of 5x.016 and ddp 90s. id go with a set of sdx 5x.016 sticks my self. the regular 12mm arp studs will be fine for what u are going to be doing. stock internals will hold 4k easily. water meth aint realy for cleaning up the smoke, its for controlling egts. good luck with the build man
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:13 PM
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So heres what I'm thinking 024 dv's,181's will make good power, you should have 131's in your pump and they will work too, delivery valves would be the last thing on my list right now...i am unsure of 024's cause i have never dealt with them 5x16 injectors or (maybe ddp +90) 5x16's are perty big, but that is what i am putting in my truck and i am hoping for 600+ with a 13mm p-pump and twins whats better?, dps s400 twinsi don't know what brand DPS is but there are tons of kits out there, depending on the size you choose will depend on how streetable they will be, Hamilton cam, springs and retainers, ARP studs 12mm are fine(will I be fine with the 450$ ones), fire rings i would only o-ring the head. i have heard of people having issues with a fire-ringed head and block when daily driving it and maybe water meth to clean the smoke uplike said before, it only helps with EGT's and then IN MY CASE, it only helped me out marginally, BUT nitrous on the other hand..... . I want to build this once and do it right I don't care if it costs a lil bit more. Is it possible to have a reliable 5 to 600 horse daily driver or am I being unreasonable also is a 4k GSK safe for stock rotating assemblyyes. Also i don't want to "roll coal" it was cool when I was a kid ( 2 smoking tickets) but I feel it brings a bunch of unwanted negative attention to the diesel performance community. Thank you for all of your time please critique this and let me know.
my comments are above in red. i hope it helps

BTW my head will be heavily ported too might want to look into that also....
 

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Old 08-30-2010, 09:49 PM
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will have to agree with ben on the rings i know numorus guys that run fireings and have multiple issues with them go with oring more simple and you dont gain anything with firerings over o rings
 
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i think im going to have mine ported also hear it helps tons with the smoke
 
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well it allows for a larger volume of air to flow at the same PSI so that compared to a stock with the same amount of fuel will lessen the smoke. it is all a matching game, matching the pump to the injectors to the turbo's to the head and then matching a clutch or an auto tranny to it all so it'll last.....
 
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What i wound up deciding on

ATI damper
billet front cover
adjustable timing gear
custom Engineered Diesel s475 over 62
ported and polished o'ringed head with new back cut valves
hamilton big stick
hamilton pushrods
hamilton springs with billet retainers and 10 degree keepers
port matched peirs manifold
flex a lite fan kit
Air dog II
0.24 delivery valves
arp head studs
12.5k shipped
when she sees the bill >>>
 


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