The Kubota Swap 'Hijack Me' Topic
#112
Here is a v2203 turbo list, or part of it, as it is a bit old now. I apologize if I got any of the info incorrect, or if someone did not want to be associated The DB site is quite a bit more involved with the v2203 than where I originally posted this info on 4btswaps, Not sure but it may help someone
I did compile a list of the turbos that have or were installed on the engine and a short list of proposed turbos. I cannot verify any of these details other than what was posted on the various forums. I tried to list the user names of the users as well and any abbreviated comments about the turbos. Please feel free to correct any mistakes I may have made, as I am sure I have made some.
Or if anyone has any updated info feel free to add to the list
OEM for vt2203T= TD025, and TD03
CT26 from a supra twin FTE #1
Mercedes 300d FTE #2 not run for long
TD04L-10 FTE #3 good results
IHI RHF3 usedkubotaman #1 too small
TD04H-13C Mitsubishi from volvo 2.3 usedkubotaman #2 too big
GT1749 SAAB 95 usedkubotaman #3
TDO4L-13G usedkubotaman #4 ???
IHI RHF4 from danielbuck jeep cj2a OE kubota new engine?
GT1544 turbo6bar good results
TD04L-13G from a WRX Redveloce too big
calculated from Garrett reported by turbo6bar
GT1544, or GT1548
gt25 td25
suggested by turbo6 TD-04-9B from dodge colt or TD04-10T from dodge stealth or mitsu 300 twins
more suggestions from turbo6bar VNT25, and GT1752 SAAB
that is what I have, again I can not vouch for accuracy, and a lot of the exact model #'s are not present, which can make a huge difference.
I did compile a list of the turbos that have or were installed on the engine and a short list of proposed turbos. I cannot verify any of these details other than what was posted on the various forums. I tried to list the user names of the users as well and any abbreviated comments about the turbos. Please feel free to correct any mistakes I may have made, as I am sure I have made some.
Or if anyone has any updated info feel free to add to the list
OEM for vt2203T= TD025, and TD03
CT26 from a supra twin FTE #1
Mercedes 300d FTE #2 not run for long
TD04L-10 FTE #3 good results
IHI RHF3 usedkubotaman #1 too small
TD04H-13C Mitsubishi from volvo 2.3 usedkubotaman #2 too big
GT1749 SAAB 95 usedkubotaman #3
TDO4L-13G usedkubotaman #4 ???
IHI RHF4 from danielbuck jeep cj2a OE kubota new engine?
GT1544 turbo6bar good results
TD04L-13G from a WRX Redveloce too big
calculated from Garrett reported by turbo6bar
GT1544, or GT1548
gt25 td25
suggested by turbo6 TD-04-9B from dodge colt or TD04-10T from dodge stealth or mitsu 300 twins
more suggestions from turbo6bar VNT25, and GT1752 SAAB
that is what I have, again I can not vouch for accuracy, and a lot of the exact model #'s are not present, which can make a huge difference.
#113
I think the Kubota turbo topic may merit its own thread here. Does anyone know if there is a way to edit a first post? I haven't found a way on this forum, but it would be great if we could keep an easy to find listing of tested turbos.
Here's my experience from the best of my memory. I also found out that the WRX actually has a TD03-13T, not G. Some of the earlier listings online have it listed as a G, but that appears to be incorrect.
TD04L-13T-6 from 2004 WRX
Results: 3-4PSI from 1600-1900RPM, about 8PSI @ 2000, would slowly push up to 14PSI by 2500 which was where the RPM was limited at the time. Very quickly rising EGT if fueled too quickly.
Compound turbos
Small turbo: TD03-08G-4.8 from twin turbo Volvo S80
Big turbo: TD04L-13T from WRX
Results: 8PSI @ 1800, 12PSI @ 2000, quickly rising into the 20s with more RPM. Felt labored, not quick revving, would blow filler cap off the valve cover. Likely very high drive pressure.
TD03-08G-4.8 from Volvo S80 alone
Results: Same as compounds but would have to be pushed very hard to reach 12PSI @ 2000RPM, and would fall flat after that.
TD03L-10k-4.8 CHRA and compressor housing from BMW 335D with Exhaust housing from the Volvo TD03
Results: Same as Volvo TD03, but would continue pulling up to 2300-2400RPM
TD04L-10KYRC-5 from Cummins B3.3
Results: 4PSI ~1200RPM, 6PSI @1500, 8PSI @ 1600, 12PSI @ 2000RPM, ~20PSI @ 2500RPM, 30PSI @ 3000RPM. It continues to pull hard to over 3500RPM. EGTs generally below 1000, and will only rise above 1100 if pulling very hard for a long time below 2200RPM. The turbo builds boost very fast over 2000RPM, but intake heat rises quickly over 15PSI.
Notes: Stock turbo on Mitsubishi 2.0TDI. Also, the similar TD04-10T was stock on the Mitsubishi 2.5 diesel vehicles.
Here's my experience from the best of my memory. I also found out that the WRX actually has a TD03-13T, not G. Some of the earlier listings online have it listed as a G, but that appears to be incorrect.
TD04L-13T-6 from 2004 WRX
Results: 3-4PSI from 1600-1900RPM, about 8PSI @ 2000, would slowly push up to 14PSI by 2500 which was where the RPM was limited at the time. Very quickly rising EGT if fueled too quickly.
Compound turbos
Small turbo: TD03-08G-4.8 from twin turbo Volvo S80
Big turbo: TD04L-13T from WRX
Results: 8PSI @ 1800, 12PSI @ 2000, quickly rising into the 20s with more RPM. Felt labored, not quick revving, would blow filler cap off the valve cover. Likely very high drive pressure.
TD03-08G-4.8 from Volvo S80 alone
Results: Same as compounds but would have to be pushed very hard to reach 12PSI @ 2000RPM, and would fall flat after that.
TD03L-10k-4.8 CHRA and compressor housing from BMW 335D with Exhaust housing from the Volvo TD03
Results: Same as Volvo TD03, but would continue pulling up to 2300-2400RPM
TD04L-10KYRC-5 from Cummins B3.3
Results: 4PSI ~1200RPM, 6PSI @1500, 8PSI @ 1600, 12PSI @ 2000RPM, ~20PSI @ 2500RPM, 30PSI @ 3000RPM. It continues to pull hard to over 3500RPM. EGTs generally below 1000, and will only rise above 1100 if pulling very hard for a long time below 2200RPM. The turbo builds boost very fast over 2000RPM, but intake heat rises quickly over 15PSI.
Notes: Stock turbo on Mitsubishi 2.0TDI. Also, the similar TD04-10T was stock on the Mitsubishi 2.5 diesel vehicles.
#114
I found some interesting specs on carrier Kubota motors. Not all are the same in terms of set output, on motors made after 2004, the timing, rpm, and output #'s are different. I have 4 and of the three in this vintage, the 4th is 2002, the timing on 2 is 6 deg and the other is 6.5. The latter has more output, 28.9 kw compared to 23.7, 2200rpm vs 1700rpm. The 2002 motor is 28.2 kw, not sure what rpm or timing, the label does not say. So I'm not sure if it's just timing and rpm that is making the difference or?
Last edited by FTE; 08-11-2014 at 02:26 PM.
#116
Remove the little curved hose on the thermostat housing over to the head and use those ports. I built custom inlets for mine that were bigger so I would have more water flow. I’ll take a pic of mine and post it if you like.
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M&PCCW (09-01-2014)
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#119
Here's what I made for my truck. I just wanted to make sure I had plenty of flow. Depending on which "T"-stat housing you have, it may have a screw in nipple or it may be a permanent squeezed in type, either way you can modify if you want. I drilled and tapped mine and then used a brass fitting that I drilled out for additional flow.
FTE is correct though, you'll probably get plenty of heat without modifying as long as you have a hotter T-stat.
FTE is correct though, you'll probably get plenty of heat without modifying as long as you have a hotter T-stat.
#120
I just replaced the bypass hose with the heater plumbing, and it has always had plenty of heat. Getting the engine up to full temp has always been the heat limitation, not the flow.
Did anyone ever figure out if the liquid cooled turbos put out enough heat to run the heater alone?
This is an older picture of my setup, but the heater hose routing is still the same.
Did anyone ever figure out if the liquid cooled turbos put out enough heat to run the heater alone?
This is an older picture of my setup, but the heater hose routing is still the same.