Ok guys I was really considering putting a diesel in my truck a few months back then I read that it was a
huge amount of work and that you had to replace nearly everything but I was looking on yalls forum today and read somthing about a 4bta I think? Anyway I heard that is a lot less ha ssle is this true if so can you explain exactly what I need to do to put this motor in my truck also I. Currently have the 5.0 3p2efi in my truck stock with about 6 inches of lift and before you ask I want to use this truck for mudding not anything to major but you know after a nice rainy day or so. Sorry if I spelled anything wrong my phone is kinda lagggy

 

well first of all, who told you that, and a huge amount of work compared to what? in my opinion a 4bta would be more of a pain, even though its smaller and lighter, because they didnt put them in pickup trucks, so you are missing alot of little things, my advice would be find a good 4bt, and then look for a 92 or so dodge with a blown 6bt then use every thing from the dodge that will bolt on to the 4bt, use the radiator, inter cooler the flywheel housing, the transmission the t case, the exhaust, all of it, that is what would kill you if you were trying to find it all piece by piece, or of course you could just put a 5.9 in it and then wait for the haters to say it wont work

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oh yeah also a 6bt will a vaccum pump for you brake booster so you dont have to mess with a hydro boost. if you know how to weld and do your own work it isnt hard.

 

Thanks for the reply I've been waiting forever

 

Whats the difference 4bt is intercooled, 4bta has an air to water cooler I think the engine is the same isn't it

 

well i wasnt saying 4bt over a 4bta, i think the only difference in the two would be they would have different injectors, what i was saying is doing a 4bt would be more of a pain than just doing a 6bt, based on what they cost and getting all the odds and ends compared to just buying a dodge truck and swaping it over, but if you could find a dodge truck with a blown motor you could probably get all you need and still make money off the scrap.

 

Hows your front end holding up with that 1100 lb motor ? I think that the lighter weight would be the advantage of the 4bt, that and fuel milage.

 

What's going to be the cheapeast one and yeah what about the weight of it I mean I wanted to put a 4bt because of the gasmileage

 

well that goes back to my original point, a 6bt is cheaper because of supply and demand, a 4bt is a 6bt with 2 cylinders missing so its less motor, but since theres thousands of dodge trucks with 6 bts in them out there you will find one cheaper generally that a 4bt because they are used in commercial trucks and equipment so they usually sell for what a whole running dodge truck would cost. of course a 4bt will be a better choice as far a weight and millage, but i would imagine it would cost more, i originally wanted a 4 bt but couldnt do it with in my budget, if you can find the fabled p30 van with a good 4bt in it go for it, but I decided to go with the 6, based on the entire project cost me 2 grand to complete, and ive seen it done before, and never heard a horror story about the front end not handling it, although there are plenty of people out there clicking refresh dreaming of the day when somebody snaps a spindle or cracks a frame in a half ton. if you drive your truck like a half ton and dont try to pull a goose neck, you will be fine. in my opinion the 2wd twin i beam front end on an f150 is capable of holding up a 6bt because it only has 2 pivot points and the axle beams are plenty strong, as far a a 4wd ttb, you could fill a stadium with people talking $hit about it, and i have no experience with a cummins in a 4wd f150, if you can find a 4bt do it, but it in my opinion will cost more, unless you can find one already set up for a ford transmission.

 

as of this point i dont have any motors or any idea were to get one im just looking for the better choice overall and preferably very cheap cuz im broke

 

I'm not waiting for the day someone cracks a spindle, I was just curious as to your experience of how your frontend is holding up. You're only the second one I know of with a 6bt in a half ton. and as far as the 4wd ttb yeah it's a pos