the 24 valve would be cool and yeah its all about what you want and can do. make it yours because its gonna be your truck and this truck i'm doin will be mine for a long time thats why im takin my time with it. I got my cherry picker from harbor freight. it works. only problem was the handle holder fell off so now ya just gotta set it on top. not a big deal. miller's wrecking yard is hard to explain. if your headed south its on the right. i almost missed it when i went to see my car. theres a line of shed's out front then there's the shop. next to the shop and behind it is the yard. almost 100% chevy. I do go to SGI high school. last year finally and also i take Power Equipment/Diesel at Ellicottville boces. my truck is doing great. just working on patching mounts. the radiator core mounts rusted and the rear cab mounts rusted so those mounts have to be patched. The Frame is so solid its rediculous and the D80 and D60 are pretty nice. i actually took the truck muddin when the body was shot and finally destroyed the body so now its got a new cab, new fenders, new doors, and now it'll probably get a flat bed for the back. It's a manual truck too. i plan to go to a 6 speed or maybe just split rear end in the future. i also need to get a new axle because of the speed sensor. mine being 85 doesnt have one so i might go dually. i just need to learn a little more about axle ratios. Would you consider going dodge transmission? if your going 24 valve the computer will control it and if you can get it with the engine it probly wont cost as much as an adaptor. but if you got a 4x4 its gotta be a 4x4 trans. i dont get why they have two but oh well

 

welcome to DB, check out (fordcummins.com) they should have the stuff you need, and they were a big help, good luck.

 

Sorry guys, my Hard Drive at home took a crap and with the holidays this past weekend was off and busy with the fam. At work now on computer.

Yeah , the 24 valve would be cool because you can just plug in power. But before I would do that, I would beef up the tranny first. Its easy enough to get more power but you have to make sure the transmission can hold up. About using the Dodge tranny I would consider it but I don't know a lot about the 47Re that came in the 99 Rams. I have heard the 47's are regarded as the weak link in a otherwise stout drive train that was plagued with electrical problems and lubrication problems. Either way its going to cost me money because if I chose the 47, I would not leave it stock. I plow my church lot as a side gig and with the storms here , it can get kinda hairy. It's an open area with a lot of wind that creates deep drifts. I don't know how well the tranny was maintained and would not just throw it in my truck without getting it looked at first. So if I went with the Dodge system, I'd like to find someone locally who knows Dodge trannys and knows how to make them live in a plow truck. Or I'd buy one built from a company like ATS Diesel, PATC and others that I can't think of right now. And that ain't cheap but you get what you pay for. So i still have to research the 47 as of now.

The E4OD i have in my truck is a MonsterBox from Factory Tech which is or was in 2006 distributed by Jasper's. It was claimed to have been tested at 1800 lb./ft flywheel torque for eight hours and never failed. Just what I read. The thing cost me just over 3400 bucks when the 351 was rebuilt and put back in the truck. The factory tranny was still working when it was pulled with 91289 miles for the core. But I maintained it and that's why it lasted because I've been plowing with it since I bought it in 1996. It has a B&M aluminum pan that adds at least three extra quarts; I have a TruCool #4739 cooler http://www.dieselsite.com/ProductImages/trucool4739.gif that is rated for 40k GVW behind the grill and there's a second finned aluminum tube cooler 12" SILVER ALUMINUM FINNED TRANSMISSION COOLER SINGLE - eBay (item 300508921655 end time Dec-28-10 18:26:56 PST) sitting behind the bumper on the plow frame. Under the hood, there's a external spin on transmission filter under the hood http://www.dieselsite.com/ProductImages/tfikweb.gif and at the end of the finned cooler before the line returns back to the tranny, I have the flush valve http://www.dieselsite.com/ProductImages/flushvalve.gif that I use to flush the transmission. I used to flush the tranny out every year with that valve. If anyone wants to know how I did it, let me know and we can make a new thread elsewhere. Now you know why my friend took my truck and had "OVERKILL" placed on the windshield. I know what I have added to my transmission system made a stock E4OD last 91K miles with plowing. I was reading on forums of Fords with as little as 25k to 30k miles blowing the trannys when plowing. With all the extras on the system, I estimate that my tranny holds at least 22 quarts. The more the better to keep it cool when pushing snow. Since rebuilding the motor and installing the new tranny, they have just shy of 10k miles. My E4OD is a low mileage tranny. I know where that trannys been. That's why I'm more prone to use mine cause either way it's gonna cost $$$.

In 2006 with the new motor and tranny, I converted the truck to mass air with a kit. So I already have a tranny controller from Baumann Engineering. Yeah, I spent some dollars on this rig. She's now ready for the final step up to the big leagues with an oil burner between the rails.

The Harbor Freight cherry picker has held the PowerStroke huh? As long as you say she held, okay by me. I'd like to find a used older one on Craigslist but we'll see. I'll have to look online and shop around. I was looking in my garage the other day and might have room for a hoist. Or I can find a shop with one. I know a **** load of people.

I know exactly where you're talking with the sheds. I'll have to stop by there one day and look for your Camaro. What color? Good luck in school and that sounds like a cool class to take (diesel pwr equip). Your truck sounds awesome. Like to see it one day. I didn't know the older Fords had Dana80's for rears. Must have been before the Sterlings. Or did you swap it? Don't know that much about the rear end stuff but I am always up to learn new things. I can't wait to set up the garage with enough juice to run a welder. I know enough guys that weld including family to help. I want to be more independent for projects like this. You sound like a knowledgeable dude. Keep learning and growing for the future, kid. You'll go far. I appreciate your input.


Thanks, crewcab. Appreciate the help. I have heard of them. How much of their stuff did you use?

 

Your project is def gonna be a cool one. Im also a built not bought guy and I was the same way get a lil iritated when people said a nv4500 wont hold up behind a turned up 8.3. I was just saying that truck that deals with brothers is bad ***. One of my friends looked at a 89 crew cab long box that had 24v with nv5600 in. 4inch lift one 35s with king ranch interior out of a new truck and a 93 front clip. Two toned maroon down to the lower trim line with tan along the bottom before ending up with 03 cummers. The 89 sure was looker and hand plenty of oomph as well, but to hefty of a price tag

 

Thanks secondhand. Yeah, I like messing with stuff and making it my own. You can say Bought then built for sure. How much do you know about that F350 that deals with Brother's? Or do you know the guy or get ahold of him? I got some questions, that's all. I've seen the truck and she looks very sweet. That 89 CC sounds real badass. All I know is, if I took the time and work to put in that truck what it sounds like it has, there's no way I would sell it. It would be mine for life. Unless the dude had his reasons for selling...

It sounds like you have one kick *** truck there with that 8.3. Congrats on doing your cool project to completion. How much bigger is it than a 5.9? Man that sounds Badass dude.

I'd love to do a manual but with plowing it probably get old real quick esp. with the lot I do. Not saying you cannot plow with a stick shift, but I'd rather not.

You know what sucks...is that you CANNOT buy a brand new 3/4HD or 1ton pickup with a manual shift transfer case AND manual locking hubs (Not that I could afford one any way but still...C'mon Man!). We've become a lazy and stupid society where people need or want idiot lights to tell them to change the oil and buttons to push to engage the four wheel drive. What a crock. More stuff to fail when you really need it. I know when my truck is in 4WD because I shift it and it's there. The Warn lockouts have yet to fail me. I don't mind getting out of the truck and lock/unlock the hubs. All I'm saying is that if you have a heavy duty truck, it should have lockouts and a manual TC. Sorry for the rant. My truck has every thing I need or want except the Cummins and maybe space behind the seat and some accessories (which I'll buy at a later time). So why shouldn't I do this? Besides building what I want and having a unique truck, I see no good reason NOT to do it. It still would be cheaper than buying a newer used diesel that wouldn't be set up like my truck is now. I'm one that feels that newer is not always better. And I like driving something that most people don't have. You get the idea. Thanks for tuning in.

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And to all the people who posted to my intro thread here, THANK YOU and have a GREAT NEW YEAR!

 

The 8.3 is like 505 ci its about 300 lbs heavier than the 5.9 and a few inches taller. Ive had alot of people confuse it for a 5.9. I have a 9ft plow with wings im at 11ft but my parents big driveway in Is all that gets plowed. Your rite though automatic makes plowing alot easier. I hear ya on the new trucks. I was at the beach last year and a guy had some rims on his f350 diesel and he was stuck. I asked did he try locking the hubs and hes like the 4wd must be broken I twisted the **** but its not going in. Once he cooled off he said if your so smart get it in 4wd. Not trying to be a know it all just help out I popped off the center caps turn the lock outs and said try in now he had to give it some peddle since he spun the rears in pretty deep but he got out and just drove by me with his window up. I dont know the owner of the black ford Just would check it out at the pulls when I would go.

 

So if you're at least 1300lbs for the 8.3 and another 1000lbs. min. for the plow, what kind of front springs are you running? The newer Dodges come with coils right? If you're running the stockers, what does she look like with the plow on?

That guy on the beach sounded like a real douche bag considering he didn't know what he was doing and you got it going for him. Another idiot that needs those idiot lights. How can you have lockouts and not know to lock it in before you go into 4wd? So he had lockouts with center caps over them? Never heard of that before. Were they factory rims or aftermarket?

About the new trucks, the Fords come with manual locking hubs and a "dash board" button for the transfer case. When I was looking at 2004 to 2007 Dodge Rams on Ebay, I saw that you could get some with the manual shift transfer case but none came with manual hubs. I don't get it.

I guess I'll have to go to some pulls in the new year to see that truck. I'd like to check your ride out with that 8.3. Better off Modified Baby.

 

I have a set of crawler off road springs in the front of mine and it doesnt really sag in comparison to leaf spring plow trucks. Dodge hasnt had manual lock outs since like 93. I had a 94 that had the lock out conversion using ford dana 60 parts it was nice and I didnt mind manually locking them in. The beach bum had some big bling bling rims the center of the caps actually popped out so you could get to the lock outs but he didnt know.

 

If your truck doesn't sag that much when you have your plow on, it must be a somewhat stiff spring. Do you have a lift on your truck at all? My truck has the original factory F250 front springs with a two add-a-leaf kit for a total of four leafs and the front end barely goes down when I throw the plow on. Granted, my 8 ft. Meyer straight blade is not the heaviest plow out there but it still rides rougher than an old Mack dump truck with out an air ride seat. I already have a set of Energy Suspension polyurethane bushings for the front springs if and when I decide to remove the bottom AAL. Eventually, I think I will try a front air ride system from Kelderman Manufacturing F-250 / 350 4x4 Front (includes Rancho shocks) KLM11145 - 1999 & Newer Ford - Kelderman Air Ride Suspension Technology. Not cheap but it's what the big trucks use for a cushy ride and they work. They also make them for Dodges as well as General Motors too. They also make rear air ride systems for the trucks as well. Check them out.

Let me guess that those big bling bling rims had super low profile tires on them. I'm a fan of bigger tires, maybe 17's or 18's but any bigger than that and I think it starts looking goofy. Just my opinion. Plus those bigger tires start getting real expensive. I'm definitely for more function over form and more go (work) than show (never gets dirty for example).