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Old 09-15-2012, 08:15 PM
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Ok, bought the truck in June has a newer dealer installed Injection Pump. Stock location of PMD & I knew it was just time till it cooked. Last week it happened, driving great then when I stepped on the peddel & she fell on her face. Ok orederd new Remote Mount PMD and installed it today behind the bumper with a 10 guage ground wire to the body. Took a short drive +/- 10 miles and she died going up a small hill, pulled over turned off for 5min started up & drove home.

I have read a few posts about checking grounds, Ok have batteries & back of the block passenger side where else?

What else am I looking for and how do I troubleshoot?

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Old 09-15-2012, 08:41 PM
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Have you pulled codes yet,dont waste money on Marine injectors get bosch injectors marine injectors=money wasted
 
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:09 PM
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Injectors are sitting in the Garage waiting for a window of time for me to bust a couple knuckles
I dont have a code reader, will any OBDII reader work? I have a Harbor Freight local in town.
 
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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yeah anycode reader will work but the cheaper ones usually wont display live data
 
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:42 PM
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Ok bought the $150 reader to read live data and took her for a spin. Stompped on the peddle to push some fuel through and she fell on her face again. But no codes
Seems like only when Im trying to stomp it does she die, I came home and left her to idle in the driveway and hold her at various RPM's and I noticed that after a rev she seemed to miss (I didnt think diesel's could miss?) I need to change out those injectors!

When I turn the key, I do hear the lift pump pressurize the system and turning the petcock valve spits fuel but doesnt kill her. So Im a little lost
 
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:38 PM
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There is a 9 ohm resistor in the plug of the factory PMD ,it isn,t in the after market PMD,your computer remembers this value so its all good,but if for some reason your batteries get dissconnected the computer looses that value,Try plugging in your old PMD and turn the ignition on for 30 seconds,turn the ignition off and plug the new one back in,this will reteach the computer that value.
 
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:11 PM
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What about a fuel supply issue to the injection pump?
 
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:45 PM
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Dirty filter,lift pump,I just changed both on my truck today,that's the second lift pump in a year,the first one when I unplugged the harness plug from the pump,fuel ran out of the plug,the second one was running,but not pumping any fuel.It's in the frame right below the drivers door,If you open the vent on top of the filter housing and turn the ignition on,you should get a stream out of the filter housing the size of the hole about 1.5 inches high, if not change the pump
 
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Originally Posted by hockeyguy651
There is a 9 ohm resistor in the plug of the factory PMD ,it isn,t in the after market PMD,your computer remembers this value so its all good,but if for some reason your batteries get dissconnected the computer looses that value,Try plugging in your old PMD and turn the ignition on for 30 seconds,turn the ignition off and plug the new one back in,this will reteach the computer that value.
There is no 9 ohm resistor hockey guy there is a #9 resistor which is a 79.8Kohm to 81.4K ohm resistor with these vehicles in OBD-I there is a check after X warmup cycles I think 50 before the PCM has resistor learn then it defaults to a #5 resistors reading 17.5K-18K ohm or zero mm/3 change to IP calibration on IP test bench, On OBD-II trucks the vehicle will run on the last stored resistor value unless a TDCO learn is commanded even with no resistor installed it will run until the learn is commanded.

Some good info to be found here http://www.stanadyne.com/dealerporta...lletin/500.pdf

In spite of what you may read a #9 resistor not always a good thing, the resistors #0-9 are used by techs on a test bench to make sure the IP under test is delivering the rated fuel per the test spec 5 is the middle 0mm/3 change to fuel and what most new IPs form Stanadyne come with, then as they are run through IP rebuild over their life you may see up or down increments of 1 mm/3 more up to 4mm more in a #9, and to 4mm less in a 0 as you move down from the #5 resistor. Changing the max delivery for more is only an incrimental change if at all to delivery across all rpm bands, the calibration resistor only makes a quantitative change at the rpm/test point of the IP at that test rpm, so guys that say "oh man you gotta put a # 9 in there for max fuel" are not quite cetting the concept yes at the test rpm but not necessarily, and you may not see the 4mm/3 increase in fuel if the IP internals are worn.

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Originally Posted by Scott@Alligator
What about a fuel supply issue to the injection pump?
Ditto to what Scott has keyed on, I'd look for fuel delivery to IP, lift pump may be fine may be rotten fuel line sucking air, may also be plugged in tank strainer sock. Get a vac/press test gauge about $20 at auto part store and a length of tubing , connect to the filter mgr drain tee outlet center front of engine (that is the short piece that lets fuel drain) snake hose & gage into the ab, be careful to not pinch the tube and dead head the pressure in the tube, open drain with engine @ idle see what reading is, should be +5-7 psi, then close hood gently to not pinch hose, go for a drive romp down on APP see what happens to lift presure should maybe dip to +1 then quickly recover, if going to 0 or not recovering then lift is weak and needs replaced or your supply in tank is plugged or air leak in line.

You could also try a new fuel filter a bad load of fuel can happen any time and crud up a recently changed filter quickly.
 

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Old 10-03-2012, 06:16 PM
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I had a loose wire in my remote pmd harness causing my 6.5 to randomly stall out. I chased this for awhile before I figured it out. Try starting the truck and wiggle the connections (watch out for moving parts). When i did this it would kill my truck. I call heath diesel and they hooked me up with a new harness.
 


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