The Blind And CCW
#1
10-26-2007, 11:44 AM
The Blind And CCW
What's everyone think about this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304838,00.html
LEBANON, N.H. — Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani is leaving the door open to allowing the blind and physically disabled to carry guns.
During a town hall meeting in northwestern New Hampshire Tuesday night, Giuliani told a former police officer blinded in the line of duty and concerned about the former New York City mayor's stance on guns, "You don't have to worry."
"You have a constitutional right, that is protected, to bear and carry arms. It is the Second Amendment," Giuliani told about 200 attendees in a high school gymnasium in Lebanon. "If someone disagrees with that, you have to get the Constitution changed."
He added that he believes in only three restrictions for those wishing to exercise their Second Amendment right — a previous criminal record, a history of mental instability and an age requirement.
Kenyon Tuthill, 61, who served as a Suffolk County, N.H., police officer until his injury, told FOX News that he was satisfied with Giuliani's answer.
During his two terms as mayor, Giuliani supported strict gun laws at both the local and national level and advocated the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. But as a presidential candidate, he vows to protect Second Amendment rights at the federal level allowing state and local authorities to determine their own "reasonable" restrictions.
New Hampshire, the Live Free Or Die State, is known for its limited gun-control laws, including no waiting period for purchases, no background checks for buyers of rifles and shotguns and no restrictions on children under 18 possessing firearms, according to the Brady Campaign, a gun-control advocacy group.
But the rural state with lots of sportsmen and a high rate of gun ownership annually has fewer than 100 total murders, including non-gun crimes, and Second Amendment rights are hugely important to constituents of both parties.
New Hampshire allows the blind to possess firearms, Tuthill said.
i'm torn on this. it IS a right and there is NOT an exclusion in the constitution for this but our government have managed to amend as they see fit anyway.
i'm really torn on this.
i guess it would be OK if the person had special training and were only allowed to put the barrel directly into the attackers body.
but how do you identify and attacker if you can't see? what if an unsuspecting victim is standing directly next to or behind the attacker?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304838,00.html
LEBANON, N.H. — Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani is leaving the door open to allowing the blind and physically disabled to carry guns.
During a town hall meeting in northwestern New Hampshire Tuesday night, Giuliani told a former police officer blinded in the line of duty and concerned about the former New York City mayor's stance on guns, "You don't have to worry."
"You have a constitutional right, that is protected, to bear and carry arms. It is the Second Amendment," Giuliani told about 200 attendees in a high school gymnasium in Lebanon. "If someone disagrees with that, you have to get the Constitution changed."
He added that he believes in only three restrictions for those wishing to exercise their Second Amendment right — a previous criminal record, a history of mental instability and an age requirement.
Kenyon Tuthill, 61, who served as a Suffolk County, N.H., police officer until his injury, told FOX News that he was satisfied with Giuliani's answer.
During his two terms as mayor, Giuliani supported strict gun laws at both the local and national level and advocated the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. But as a presidential candidate, he vows to protect Second Amendment rights at the federal level allowing state and local authorities to determine their own "reasonable" restrictions.
New Hampshire, the Live Free Or Die State, is known for its limited gun-control laws, including no waiting period for purchases, no background checks for buyers of rifles and shotguns and no restrictions on children under 18 possessing firearms, according to the Brady Campaign, a gun-control advocacy group.
But the rural state with lots of sportsmen and a high rate of gun ownership annually has fewer than 100 total murders, including non-gun crimes, and Second Amendment rights are hugely important to constituents of both parties.
New Hampshire allows the blind to possess firearms, Tuthill said.
i'm torn on this. it IS a right and there is NOT an exclusion in the constitution for this but our government have managed to amend as they see fit anyway.
i'm really torn on this.
i guess it would be OK if the person had special training and were only allowed to put the barrel directly into the attackers body.
but how do you identify and attacker if you can't see? what if an unsuspecting victim is standing directly next to or behind the attacker?
#3
10-26-2007, 11:56 AM
#4
10-26-2007, 02:04 PM
Diesel Bomber
I shot in a pistol competition with an ex-FBI agent that was blind in one eye.
Legally blind, but he had excellent vision in his left eye. He said his biggest obstacle was that he was right eye dominate. His body still tried to line up using his right eye, even thought it was basically useless.
I'm sure the people in question are not totally blind. If they were, as the issuing authority, I'd be kind of concerned.
Legally blind, but he had excellent vision in his left eye. He said his biggest obstacle was that he was right eye dominate. His body still tried to line up using his right eye, even thought it was basically useless.
I'm sure the people in question are not totally blind. If they were, as the issuing authority, I'd be kind of concerned.
#5
10-26-2007, 02:08 PM
Well You guys have to look at the other side of things, in the 1800's was there anyone telling a blind man he couldn't carry a gun to protect himself and his family. And I know some will say, well that was a different time, well its allot more dangerous now to leave your doors unlocked, or stop to help a stranger on the side of the road. In the case of the man in the article, I would much rather have him, than some hotshot urbanite that has just bought his gun, jumped in the truck and said yee-haa. I have to hunt around this type of ignorance every year and it scares me to death! Give me somebody with proper training and a respect for firearms anyday, if you ask me it should be taught in the 1st grade, right about the time I learned it. Sorry for the rant, just kind of a big deal to me.
#6
10-26-2007, 03:44 PM
you make some good points, cash. i was raised around guns, had access to guns my whole life and knew to respect them. there's a lot to be said for that. they shouldn't let anyone hunt without passing a safety class first for one thing. that would help a lot.
i know the guy in the story isn't COMPLETELY blind and with his previous training he might be ok. they do need to devise a proficiency exam for the blind/sight impaired people if they're going to allow it and it needs to be different then what a "normal" person would take. i don't think that's discriminating either because the issuing authority has to protect the bystanders, innocences, etc. imagine the lawsuits......
i know the guy in the story isn't COMPLETELY blind and with his previous training he might be ok. they do need to devise a proficiency exam for the blind/sight impaired people if they're going to allow it and it needs to be different then what a "normal" person would take. i don't think that's discriminating either because the issuing authority has to protect the bystanders, innocences, etc. imagine the lawsuits......
#8
10-26-2007, 10:47 PM
