Text Messaging Car Accident
#11
05-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Diesel Bomber
Wreckless driving would be one of those rare concepts that's a near antonym to its homonym. 
Personal responsibility becomes purview of a free society when it can impose on somebody else, and 4,000-10,000 pounds up to 100 MPH is a substantial amount of imposition. The law isn't to keep you from killing yourself as much as killing somebody else.
Seatbelt laws aren't to keep you alive, it's to keep your corpse in one location so the poor EMT's and firefighters don't have to scrap your intestines off the roadway.
Anti-cell-phone-while-driving laws are much easier to enforce and prosecute than reckless driving, which is a criminal offense rather than a traffic infraction in most states.
Personal responsibility becomes purview of a free society when it can impose on somebody else, and 4,000-10,000 pounds up to 100 MPH is a substantial amount of imposition. The law isn't to keep you from killing yourself as much as killing somebody else.
Seatbelt laws aren't to keep you alive, it's to keep your corpse in one location so the poor EMT's and firefighters don't have to scrap your intestines off the roadway.
Anti-cell-phone-while-driving laws are much easier to enforce and prosecute than reckless driving, which is a criminal offense rather than a traffic infraction in most states.
You sound like a liberal hippy...
I suppose we should ban guns too, I mean you could shoot yourself or someone else... I mean at least if they were banned you could prosecute when someone shoots someone else... wait...
Far far far too many laws on the books...
Like Helmet laws for bikes, great, make a law... but if your going to (oregon law says anyone under 17 must wear a helmet) enforce it...
So now its just another law on the books...
Like texting laws.
Get pulled over for it... "I was not texting" "yes you were" "prove it"..... Another unenforceable law
#12
05-29-2010, 06:42 PM
Traffic citations are never unenforceable, because their actual legality is close to irrelevant... They're not crimes. Most people don't bother to argue the legality; the majority that do still end up paying. Traffic courts are hardly even rooted in law; they just exist to ensure that the county's police-base fund-raising-through-extortion remains profitable.
They write plenty of cell-phone-use-while-driving tickets out here.
To use your gun allusion correctly, the irresponsible use of guns in ways that may injure others is entirely illegal, and the irresponsible use of automobiles is largely illegal for the same reasons.
How is driving while texting different from driving while drunk?
I don't agree with seat belt or helmet laws for adults, but as far as things that offend my libertarian sensibilities go, they're close to the bottom of the list.
They write plenty of cell-phone-use-while-driving tickets out here.
To use your gun allusion correctly, the irresponsible use of guns in ways that may injure others is entirely illegal, and the irresponsible use of automobiles is largely illegal for the same reasons.
How is driving while texting different from driving while drunk?
I don't agree with seat belt or helmet laws for adults, but as far as things that offend my libertarian sensibilities go, they're close to the bottom of the list.
#13
05-29-2010, 06:54 PM
ya know why we need all these laws 
because idiots do stupid things and hurt or kill other people while doing them, then try to hide when it is time to take responsibility for their actions
take my accident for instance the trailer company let a trailer leave their property after being hooked up by a 13 yr old on a ball a couple sizes too small for the hitch with no safety chains hooked up at dusk
now if the trailer company had of stepped up and taken responsibility for letting it leave like that I would be set for life but instead I am going to have to fight them in court
I also will work with my local politician to get another law passed to spare someone else from getting screwed up for life
if a helmet law saves one person from having to try to recover from brain damage it is a good thing
sometimes you see a law not being enforced but do you know what the officer is doing at the time?
is he/she on their way to a shooting/traffic accident or some other call that may be more important at the moment
how do you figure texting laws are unenforceable
a cop see`s you texting notes the time gives you a ticket
all he would have to do in court to prove it is get a copy of your phone records, time of all texts are on them
I also think since it is so dangerous that it should be a stiffer penalty
I also don`t think the video is too graphic
I think it is too short and should show the emergency room and should show how long it takes for a person to heal up
because idiots do stupid things and hurt or kill other people while doing them, then try to hide when it is time to take responsibility for their actions
take my accident for instance the trailer company let a trailer leave their property after being hooked up by a 13 yr old on a ball a couple sizes too small for the hitch with no safety chains hooked up at dusk
now if the trailer company had of stepped up and taken responsibility for letting it leave like that I would be set for life but instead I am going to have to fight them in court
I also will work with my local politician to get another law passed to spare someone else from getting screwed up for life
if a helmet law saves one person from having to try to recover from brain damage it is a good thing
sometimes you see a law not being enforced but do you know what the officer is doing at the time?
is he/she on their way to a shooting/traffic accident or some other call that may be more important at the moment
how do you figure texting laws are unenforceable
a cop see`s you texting notes the time gives you a ticket
all he would have to do in court to prove it is get a copy of your phone records, time of all texts are on them
I also think since it is so dangerous that it should be a stiffer penalty
I also don`t think the video is too graphic
I think it is too short and should show the emergency room and should show how long it takes for a person to heal up
Last edited by busta; 05-29-2010 at 07:14 PM.
#15
05-31-2010, 01:56 AM
Banned
if she would of been driving a big diesel truck her and her friends would be ok.
good video tho , ive only had my phone for a week or so and i already tried to text and drive and its impossible ... i can eat 5 soft tacos in less than 10 miles and not get anything on my seat/floor but i cannot text and drive
good video tho , ive only had my phone for a week or so and i already tried to text and drive and its impossible ... i can eat 5 soft tacos in less than 10 miles and not get anything on my seat/floor but i cannot text and drive
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