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Old 01-10-2010, 08:27 AM
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First off, I know a lot of people are out of work and I feel selfish for being in the predicament that I'm in, with that in mind, here's my story:

So in October I left my construction management job for many reasons, but mostly because my playboy boss was draining the company dry for his personal needs, not paying any bills and paychecks were bouncing. But we were still making multiple airplane payments right on schedule among other things that were not related to the business.
I had been working with a customer for over 2 years on building his business in electronics recycling and talked him into hiring me to manage his new facility. Cut my pay in half and there are no benefits whatsoever. I like the job except for the complete idiots that work for me. I've been there since Nov. 1 and have fired 5 guys already. We are horribly short handed, but the pay is bad for these guys and scum is about all we can find to fill these positions. The good side to this job field is there is plenty to do and no end in site. Additionally, I'm getting in at the right time and if I can make this facility produce, the potential for much better pay is there, but I've got to have the right crew to do it.
A week ago a friend calls me up and offers me a job working for his company which is very large, (compared to what I'm used to) worldwide and well established. The pay would put me back where I was (double what I get now) plus perdium, mileage, health insurance, 401k, etc., etc. The downside to this would have me flying out of town every week 75% of the year. The upsides are of course the pay, benefits and I would be working with a team of about 4-5 on site that are professionals and no crew to push. I'm a committed person and have a hard time considering leaving a job after 2 months.

What should I do???
 
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:13 AM
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FWIW I have a couple hundred guys working for me thoughout the US. Whenever I'm looking at hiring someone I review their resume and look for trends. I will not hire a job hopper. It costs a ton of money in training and lost productivity to hire someone that only quits you in 6 months or less.

Also if you gave me the explanation that you came in to your last job, fired the crew, got a better offer, and left them shorthanded when they needed you the most...I'd decline your services.

Many people think short term. Do you really see yourself traveling 75% of the time for long? Do you have a family? Girlfriend? Kids?

Sorry if I'm too blunt.
 
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:36 PM
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Stick it out if you believe you can turn the place around and get back into the money. If it's not looking like a possibility, then bail and see what flying for work is like, you'll either like it or absolutely hate it.

I agree job hopper's are a pain in the rear, but you also have to do what's best for you. In my opinion, it sounds like you are in the middle of the hard work part before the rewards come in with your current position, I would tough it out.
 
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:42 PM
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hes man stick it out at least more than a few months i am the same way i would and will never hire somebody like that it cost my company more in the long run you are your own person though so if you need to do it then by all means but if you don't then i would chill
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:40 AM
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If you're willing to take the new job because you'd enjoy it more along with the benefits and better pay, I'd go for it. You're in a difficult situation right now, and 2 months is short enough that you could just not list it on your resume...say you were in between careers and just took an immediate position while waiting for a full offer. Might not be honorable or noble to be a 'job-hopper', but sometimes you have to do what you have to do, so do whatever will benefit you the most in the long run. Staying at a crap low-paying job to be honourable enough not to be a job hopper may work in that respect, but this other job may not be available in the future, and taking a 50% pay cut is pretty huge.
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:49 AM
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Tim.....for what its worth

go with the job that you enjoy and adjust yer lifestyle to fit, happieness is first and foremost, I know that doesnt pay bill but sounds like you are making it as is with what you have now, I dont think you will like being away from Lisa 75% of the time, the new job offer sound like it would be a blast for a single man but I know you are a happy family man.......I like others here say stay the course with what you have and try to find another committed employee like yerself to help pull the load, they are out there and you can find them just be patient..........remember you get what you pay for so maybe yer looking in the wrong labor pool.............incentives for performance will allow the cream to rise to the top
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Whit
...I dont think you will like being away from Lisa 75% of the time...
For me, the advice I was going to give depended on whether or not TPC had a family and/or significant other. The above quote from Whit sealed it for me.

I wouldn't take the job. It will undoubtedly put a big strain on your relationship(s) and it sounds like you have the potential to eventually boost your pay up to what you were previously making. Unless you're in real financial trouble, I'd stick it out at your current job for a bit longer.
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:02 AM
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bottom line Tim.........I know you well enough to say that if yer current boss is a good egg he will see in you eventually all the potential and yer rewards will reflect yer efforts........IF you have confidence in yer corrent boss and company then stay the course bro
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:17 AM
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"Job Hopper" is just the derrogatory name lame-azzed employers have for people they cannot or will not afford to keep. There is no loyalty in business, especially in this cut-throat economy these days. Do you think they would hesitate one minute to lay you off if that became convenienet for them?

Do what YOU want because that's what YOU want to do and what's best for your family - not because of some misplaced loyalty or higher calling.
 
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:20 AM
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I was in the same situation took a cut in pay to come in and help run a family business with tons of potential employees suck a$$ that are here now thought many times about going back to driving trucks again would be a increase in pay and I absolutly love driving big trucks and dont mind the being gone but with a wife and kids at home being gone from them is not worth it to me so I stay where I am at and look at the "down the road" stuff like weeding out the bad egg employees and the future inheiritence of the business too. So I stay where im at. I too would say stay if you think you can make a difference so that It works for you. Being gone from home puts a strain on relation ships and family life. And if you have kids or going to have them they grow up TOO fast and that is time you cant get back JMHO. But good luck to you and what ever you choose to do just do what feels right with no anxieties.
 


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