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Old 04-10-2010, 04:12 AM
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no we don't- we keep it simple!
But maybe we can collect some simple rules and laws, like wiring diameter compared to wattage, how to wire speakers, where to install the wires to avoid hissing and noise.
How to install CB's without trouble and noise.
Dual battery installs in the correct way without those ridiculous relays.
Some tricks what can be done with relays, diodes and switches.

It would be a help for neebies and everyone to have something like that sticky.
What do you think? There is no need to go to stereo sites- we can do it ourself adjusted to trucks.
 
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How can I find out that Im pushing my full power out of my amp to my kickers? Is there a way you can read the rms or anyhting with a volt meter?
 
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:02 PM
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Yepp, there is a way!
1: track down your speakers resistance
2: track down your amplifiers rms power. Please no music power or peak music power output these are unreal wattages.
3: use a single 80hz tone for subwoofers and 1000hz for speakers.
4: connect your DMM in a AC voltage setting to the amp speaker output.

5: use this formula: V=SQRT (rms wattage x resistance)
example: V = SQRT( 25W x 4 Ohms)
the multimeter readout should be V= 10V.
You don't need a load at the amp -just the DMM and the test tone.
You don't have the test tone- shoot me a pm.

warning: Set all amp and headunit adjusters like bass boost and equalizers to a zero level to get a real world signal.


the lazy way is to post your amp rms and speaker resistance...
 

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Old 04-30-2010, 05:30 PM
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or do you want a visual warning like flashing Led when reaching peak volume?
its possible to do that.
 
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My orion has a led peak power on the side where my gain is and where I can switch from mono to lq(what excatly does lq mean

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and one thing i forgot how do I find the ohm's. I want to takes those four ohm kicker competion series to the full potetionol with my amp you think it will handle it even with the capcitor?

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warning: Set all amp and headunit adjusters like bass boost and equalizers to a zero level to get a real world signal.


What do you mean by this . Sorry just didnt make since. Are u wanting me to turn all of my bass boosters and equaliers off and turn the gain up for they hit harder or what?
 

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Old 05-03-2010, 04:58 PM
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No problem:
so your kicker speakers have 4 ohms? A single one or more of them?
How are you going to connect them? parallel for maximum output for your Orion amp?

- Yes, turn off all boosters and equalizers. an equalizer boosts your signal very heavy
+3db equals to double volume- so that you reach the limit very quickly.

- Iq does mean that:
Incorporated in the high-pass crossover, Intelli-Q maximizes the
performance of a subwoofer. The high-pass subsonic filter removes
unwanted bass output from the woofer, increasing the output of a
subwoofer by as much as 3 dB due to the increased mechanical power
handling. Depending on the enclosure, using Intelli-Q can increase the
low frequency response by an additional 10dB! The type of enclosure
used and the woofer’s excursion capability determine acceptable
boost levels.

That means it cuts off very low unneccessary subsonic frequencies to be able to have more cone movement without destroying the speaker cone.
 
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That makes alot of since. I have set up some systems but I want this one to be advanced. And yes I have two kickers and I'm going to be setting them parrell. I have a few more questions a guy who used to work for us was kinda a B/S'er and I have a hard time believing him because he said 8 ohms will hit harder but thats how this discussion came upon. But he said that if you havs 800 watt subs and only a 600 watt amp you can have everything up and the subs won't ever blow. To me that sounds ridiculous even though every sub has a peak power. So what do you think bud is it true cause I dont think it is. And I have a pioneer premerrie series deck two pioneer 6x9's, two pionner 6 inch door speakers my Orion amp, Alamani capcitor and monster cable wire and two Kicker comp. series subs how do you think my system will sound will I blow alot of people out of the water, even with the subs at 1 Ohm???
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:21 PM
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You will have a blast if everything is set up right. Use your speakers in parallel! Because your Orion amp is built for high current in a parallel application!

Each speaker will get the same amount of current in parallel.
That means you double the volume by supplying more current.
Don't be afraid- Orion amps are built for that!

A series application will increase resistance and cut the supplied current into half.
That means: less power for every speaker!

8 ohms series on a Orion amp are a waste of power.

You will get a great sound with 2 Ohms in parallel.
 
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everything will be set up right. Have you seen the pics of my box that I custom made so I know all of it will be bad *** I just need to out thump my bro with his Dual 12's and a kenwood 1000 watt amp. And a few other of my buddies But they will bring it on adn so will I. What size ports should I run for the kickers I have two inch and 4 inch
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:42 PM
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It depends on the kickers itself.
Go to the kicker site and get the number supplied with them. They will also tell you if your speakers are for a closed or ported application.

You have to built your box according to those specs to get a maximum of punch.
This is neglected very often and one of the causes why people aren't satisfied with their speakers. But it all depends on the built!
Go for solid MDF- no OBD boards...

Don't fear Kenwood- you got an Orion, man!

The bigger port causes less venting air noise.
Almost all application that are sold now have bigger ports. But it depends on that what Kicker recommends!
 



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