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Old 05-29-2012, 06:56 AM
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Do you have any pictures or manufacturer numbers?

I found pre filter arrangement only in old style manuals or in semi applications using huge filter arrangements suitable only for huge fuel flows. Most of them I found have a filter thread mount of 1" or bigger.

Maybe you have something in a usable common small size?
 
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:26 AM
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I forget the specific part number, but some of the filter cartridges using the Fuelpro 382 filter assembly are rated in the 30 to 50 micron range. I've seen these on large farm tractors and over the road semi trucks, probably be hard to package in a smaller application.
 
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:29 AM
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That's exactly the point. I would love to go with a pre-filter, but havn't one yet fitting into the engine bay.
 
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:43 AM
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As stated, applications using those cartridges also have a secondary filter that's much finer to protect the pump and injectors.




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Originally Posted by Deezel Stink3r
That's exactly the point. I would love to go with a pre-filter, but havn't one yet fitting into the engine bay.
That's why it's filtered before it goes into the vehicle.

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The wvo and wmo, that is.
 

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Old 05-29-2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rodbuilder
Look - let's settle this stupid argument once and for all. I want you dto do TWO things:

1. Take an old broomstick with you and go to a local restaurant. Put the stick down the middle of the opening of their junk cooking oil tank. SEE!!! it's sitting there with NO support - STRAIGHT UP!! Thre's so much crap in the "oik" that it's supporting the broomstick!!!! Junk you're gonna have to filter out of it!!!!

2. Now - drain the oil out of your truck after 6,000 of hard towing. Put a toothpick (MUCH lighter than and broomstick - right?) and stand it up in the oil, the n let go. what happened? IT FELL OVER AND LAID FLAT IN THE OIL!!! Why? BECASUE THERE'S NOTHING IN IT TO SUPPORT THE TOOTHPICK - THAT'S WHY!!!

And cut with the "Well there's "something in the oil because a test detected ware particles", because I've said over and over and over that I filter my oil down to TWO measly microns!!

Do you realize how tiny a micron is?
Do you know how many microns a stock fuel filter is? Try 10, 20 and sometimes 30!!!!

Pal, If you like the idea of using 4 or 5 different filters to use that filthy wvo crap, then all I can say is go for it!!! If you do I won't have to worry abut MY sources drying up!!!!

If you can't see the difference in filth between used motor oil or hydraulic fluid and that crap that comes out of a french fry cooker I'm done trying to explain it to you!!!

After this post I realized I'm further bringing my own self down by even responding, since you clearly know very little about what you're talking about.

I know what a micron is, cause that's what my WVO gets filtered to, below what you are filtering. I filter to one micron, and am looking to go further, so yes I know what it is. That's one micron ABSOLUTE for the record. Centrifuging should put be down below 1/2 a micron absolute.

The broom stands up in WVO because of the viscosity. It has nothing to do with what is in there, that is absurd to even think that. Your own example could be demolished by using a dumpster of clean oil next to a dumpster of dirty oil, but do it in freezing temps. The broom will probably stand up about the same. I can't imagine a broom standing up in WVO anyways, and if the oil is that bad I wont use it, nor will I eat at that restaurant again.

Your example of WMO... try doing that with gear oil. It's just the viscosity, not the particles inside of it. Obviously a thicker oil will cause the broom to fall slower. I'm not sure what that has to do with your original comment of "dirt" being in it. Just further proves your lack of knowledge on the subject.

You're done trying to explain this, because you can not. You are talking above your comprehension now. What stock fuel filters are 20 or 30 microns? Last I knew my stock filter setup went from a 10 micron to a 2 micron absolute. Where did I say I use 4 or 5 filters to filter my oil? WTF? My filtration system has a 200 micron barrel lid the oil goes in, just to keep out those "chunks" then it gets heat/settled as anyone should do EVEN WITH WMO, then passes through a 5/1 micron absolute bag. Just one bag filter.... Then on to the truck it goes. Of course there is a filter on the system on the truck, but that's more of a safety net than anything, all the real filtering is done in the heating and settling process.

Do you know how tiny the orifices are inside of a powerstroke injector? I do. I've done my homework and my system is working. I've had to replace exactly ZERO parts of my factory truck due to an issue with my WVO system.

I hope your track record is as good with the way you like to point fingers. If you want to knock someone else's setup, at least get some facts to do so.

I'm done with this thread, if anyone wants to have a discussion about WVO, you know where to get in touch with me.
 

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Old 05-29-2012, 02:06 PM
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Just as an reminder:

2 micron is the technical limit to measure particle size. Any filtration in this size must be done by a centrifugal filter to be effective as Mdub already mentioned.

Just to give you an idea about the size: bacteria like the dangerous cholera bacteria are in the 0.2 to 5 micron size.
 
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Deezel Stink3r
Do you have any pictures or manufacturer numbers?

I found pre filter arrangement only in old style manuals or in semi applications using huge filter arrangements suitable only for huge fuel flows. Most of them I found have a filter thread mount of 1" or bigger.

Maybe you have something in a usable common small size?


Call these people and ask them to help you with their "Bio-Tek line. You're going to have to decide on length, diameter and the thread diameter.

Cim-Tek®Filtration: Petroleum

The ultimate filter is THIS centrifuge, which will take care of any particulates ANS water.............. WVO Designs - Engineering Waste Oil Solutions

And don't listen to all these naysayers because they've never ran any oil and you're not gonna get anything positive out of them.

BOTTOM LINE:
1. Filter your used oil to 2 microns, before it goes into your truck's fuel tank and AGAIN at the engine - using an aftermarket screw-on filter.
2. Make every effort to get only clean oil from a known source that's free from water and antifreeze.
3. Make up a draw tube from 1" PVC, so it draws 3" off the bottom of their tank or drums AND FILTER IT TO 10 MICRONS WHEN YOU'RE PUMPING!!
4th and probably most important - you HAVE to have an Airdog , Raptor, or FASS transfer pump on your truck to pump the thicker oil.
5. I also use a quart of Lucas injector cleaner in every 75 gallon tank I run. Look around - you can find it for about $8.50 if you look hard enough. It's good, cheap insurance.

All else is totally BS. 540 gallons and going strong!!!
 
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:04 PM
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A while back I saw a post saying a wvo system could be built for about $450. anyone remember this. I want to setup a system for year round use but need a place to source the parts.
 
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:39 PM
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I can't imagine building a quality system for that price. Even if you built most of it yourself. The tank alone is going to cost a bit to fab up (needs to be aluminum and needs to be heated) the pump alone is going to be close to that I'd imagine...
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
I can't imagine building a quality system for that price. Even if you built most of it yourself. The tank alone is going to cost a bit to fab up (needs to be aluminum and needs to be heated) the pump alone is going to be close to that I'd imagine...
that was without a tank and pump.
 


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