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Is that Terminator Engineering upgrade, where you send your HPOP in and they modify it then send it back, any good on these trucks? ALL I plan to do to the truck are mods that wont destroy my stock trans; ie intake, exhaust, tuner, and anything else I can make work.

Is there substantial power (numbers, anyone?) or mpg increases from a TE hpop? Will my auto trans be ok with only doing intake/exhaust/tuner/TE HPOP?

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I saw no improvement with the mod...

Now going from a 15* pump to a 17* pump you will see some, but the the mod itself I was not impressed with.
 
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It depends on the condition of your pump currently... If your pump is in tip top shape, then you might not see as much improvement as modding a worn pump...

If your pump is in good shape and you aren't doing injectors yet, I wouldn't worry about the pump... If its worn, Terminator's deals can't be beat IMO.
 
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I saw no improvement with the mod...

Now going from a 15* pump to a 17* pump you will see some, but the the mod itself I was not impressed with.
Wuuuuut. Really? I thought that the upgrade essentially made it a 17* pump or better...? Are you saying a superduty pump would be more advantageous than a Terminator pump?

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It depends on the condition of your pump currently... If your pump is in tip top shape, then you might not see as much improvement as modding a worn pump...

If your pump is in good shape and you aren't doing injectors yet, I wouldn't worry about the pump... If its worn, Terminator's deals can't be beat IMO.
What a predicament.


So would a 17* SD pump be better? Would an SD pump increase power/mpg with the combo I'm gonna go with mod-wise?
 
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Wuuuuut. Really? I thought that the upgrade essentially made it a 17* pump or better...? Are you saying a superduty pump would be more advantageous than a Terminator pump?



What a predicament.


So would a 17* SD pump be better? Would an SD pump increase power/mpg with the combo I'm gonna go with mod-wise?
What Joe is saying is that he didn't see an improvement, Keep in mind he already had a 17* pump and then modded that... You would be going from a 15* pump to a 17*...

A 17* pump would be better than a 15* pump for sure... Whether you just want to throw a used SD pump or send yours off to get modded to a 17* is your choice.
 
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I'm pretty sure that TE makes the pump more than just an average 17* pump... and for $250, it sounds win-win? Not only will I have a 17* pump, but I'll have some additional goodies too...

what kind of power/economy differences can be expected of this TE pump upgrade?
 
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I'm pretty sure that TE makes the pump more than just an average 17* pump... and for $250, it sounds win-win? Not only will I have a 17* pump, but I'll have some additional goodies too...

what kind of power/economy differences can be expected of this TE pump upgrade?
Yes he does more than just turn it into the 17* pump. As far as the differences, I can't really comment on that because I haven't done it to mine. My stock pump runs so far so good.
 
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. Think I'm gonna start a thread on doing an IDM
 
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Originally Posted by 85_305
I'm pretty sure that TE makes the pump more than just an average 17* pump... and for $250, it sounds win-win? Not only will I have a 17* pump, but I'll have some additional goodies too...

what kind of power/economy differences can be expected of this TE pump upgrade?
The only thing Joey does to the 17* pump is remove some check valves and restrictions, its still a 17* pump and can only put out so much oil per revolution...

I was not impressed. Only reason I sent him mine at all was to get cleaned after the motor blew.

If your looking for more oil then you need I would look at the SRP-1.
 
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Thanks for the input Joe! Still trying to see what I can come up with to make a few hp more w/out having to rebuild the trans.
 



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