Those of the lowest intelligence resort to name calling and insults when their beliefs are questioned. Because they are incapable of forming A reasonable argument to support their beliefs. Have A great day gents. And don't let the FI's of the world get to ya.

Rhino.

 

The 6.7 turbo has the same size compressor housing as the he351 IIRC. But you can (with the fleece controller) use the nozzle to close down to some 5cm up to 21cm (again I'm trying to remember these numbers from 2 other forums that posted this info). There's no reason that a he351ve can't stand up to the same abuse people put on their stock non vgt turbos. If you have big injectors and lots of tuning you wouldn't expect your turbo to work well for you, BUT if you run just a programmer (edge, smarty, tst etc) then I believe this would be a good turbo. You gain an exhaust brake via Fleece controller, even faster spool up then a stocker with possibly better compressor map for a 5.9.

Remember a he351ve was designed to work best for an engine thats nearly a full liter bigger then a 5.9. So I don't believe drive pressure will get any worse then the 9cm housing on current 351 or hx35 turbos. Especially with mild aftermarket goodies.

As for more fuel...just get a good programmer. As long as you have gauges (boost and pyro) and some aftermarket lift pump to keep your VP alive and you should be ready to rock and roll.

BTW, he351ve won't fit standard T3 flanges so you need either an adapter or to plug and drill new holes on the turbo to make it match your stock manifold

 

this is pretty much all I was trying to say for big numbers not the right turbo I glowed mine red before I switched to the turbo I have now

 

Silvrcummns. Good post. With some good info. And that all being the case. Is still not what the original question was about. And the same stands true. For the money the guy would have to spend to make the turbo out of the 6.7 work in his 5.9 in A straight swap is not really the most viable route. He was looking for A cheap straight across trade up. Get one from A wrecker and slap it in. And the point still is that comparatively the extra he would spend on A controller and such. That it is likely not going to do what he wants. Or within the expected budget. If he was looking to spend all the money on A new turbo and A controller and such then that likely would have been the spirit of the original question. And I am in the middle of sorting out heat issues in my 09 with little really for add-ons to it. Can only consistently run low levels of tuning without trying to melt the turbo out. Among other things.. So is not much of A step up for the cost he would have to incur to make it work. And thank you for putting up A good post that has good info to back it up.

Rhino.

 

Ok. I got caught up in 2 pages of holset turbo swap. BUT I will reply to the first post. ASSUMING you have some aftermarket lift pump, and gauges. Get a good programmer or stack 2 togethor. If you think you need a bigger turbo then look for a turbo from a 3rd gen (04-07) 5.9. Depending on the year will make a difference for the wastegate. The early 03-04 have a HE341 which has a more standard diaphram wastegate while the later HE351 has an electronic one. The 351 wastegate it more efficient but you would have to rig up a normal wasegate.

As for bang for your buck turbo's and whether you need more fuel you're getting on a slippery slope where money gets spent fast. My personal opinion is use prgramming to make more power. When your funds allow a new turbo or 2 then worry about bigger sticks and different vp's or p-pumps.

 

Let me explain something to you. If you actually expect to be taken seriously, a decent grasp of English with punctuation is necessary.

HA! Yeah, okay, sure, if you say so.

What are you talking about, Rhino didn't post it.

Aw, how cute, hes trying again. Keep it up!

Exactly, proper matching. Nobody ever said this turbo will be good for pushing 800hp. There are a dozen different VGTs to match anything from 50hp (GT1444V) to 700hp+ (HE561Ve), its up to the user to select the right one, but whichever one is chosen it can be assured to spool up far quicker than the same size wastegated turbo.

The 2008 L10 engines in the Gilligs I work on can spool the turbo up to 16psi and 85,000rpm just revving the engine to 1400rpm in neutral! Lets see your wastegated turbo do that!


No, they use the same wastegate. The solenoid is used to block and modulate the signal to the wastegate to achieve higher boost pressure.

Why in the world would anyone want to downgrade from a VGT with a 21.5cm turbine housing to the exact same turbo with a fixed 9cm wastegated housing?

 

Ha your actually trying to insult my spelling and grammer I'll give you that I am from texas after all ,but as far as the turbo spooling as fast or faster on my truck all I have to say is the proof is in the videos and I dont know of anyway to test it better than that it still spooled faster than the stocker dont really care if you believe it or not I have the evidence to prove the fact.

 

Keep on comeing FI. Make yourself A greater Shizzass... I like how when you can't argue with me at all you just revert back to your supposed ignore list.

Rhino.

 

I would honestly say not to go that way ya you are gonna get is faster spool but I would spend money on a fass or air dog or some sticks! And upgrade turbo down the road!

 

i dont know why you guys dont like the idea of a faster spooling vgt turbo. no it wont support a ton of hp but it is far better than stock