6.0L Performance Discussion of 6.0 Liter Ford Powerstroke Turbo Diesels Related To Performance And Longevity

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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cstem, your lack of knowledge on the topic is glaringly apparent to those that do know. Papachuck knows exactly what he's talking about. Honsetly I don't know how or why he's still being so polite to you.

You physically couldn't "burn" anything on the FICM using an SCT. NONE of the programmers out with the exception of the gryphon can even access the FICM to do any damage.

The only programmer I know of that has done anything was old bullydogs.

Here's the info on that, directly quoted from Doug @ GoGo. He also knows 6.0's VERY WELL.

Bully Dog used to corrupt the Mode 9 data that was retrievable with an IDS. They would cram files into the pcm that didn't quite match up with what was supposed to be there.

You would go to pull up what the calibration was in the pcm and instead of seeing something like VXAN0N2.hex for example. It would say something like Copyright Bullydog Technologies blah blah blah.

Lots of the try before you buy flashes with a decay rate of 30 days or whatever it was used to burn up PCMs. And then even if you went to load an SCT file into the unit, you would get strange things that would pop up.

Only a blind module installation would bring it back around to normal from that state.




Papachuck hit the nail on the head. If you're happy with your purchase, great. Don't post false information about whatever you chose to buy for power numbers. If you want to run your truck on a dyno and put a dyno sheet up here, then feel free. I've got mine at home to compare. I know what my truck put down. I know it's more than a quadzilla truck is going to put down, but that's what I was after. No one product is designed to please everyone so be it. He said it best, just do you research before spending the coin.
 

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
cstem, your lack of knowledge on the topic is glaringly apparent to those that do know. Papachuck knows exactly what he's talking about. Honsetly I don't know how or why he's still being so polite to you.

My momma said "always be polite"

You physically couldn't "burn" anything on the FICM using an SCT. NONE of the programmers out with the exception of the gryphon can even access the FICM to do any damage.

But the DIESEL TECH said....it must be so!!!! Leave the gryphon out of this, it will just complicate things

The only programmer I know of that has done anything was old bullydogs.

Here's the info on that, directly quoted from Doug @ GoGo. He also knows 6.0's VERY WELL.

Doug@GOGO....Is he a DIESEL TECH? They know stuff!!

Bully Dog used to corrupt the Mode 9 data that was retrievable with an IDS. They would cram files into the pcm that didn't quite match up with what was supposed to be there.

You would go to pull up what the calibration was in the pcm and instead of seeing something like VXAN0N2.hex for example. It would say something like Copyright Bullydog Technologies blah blah blah.

Lots of the try before you buy flashes with a decay rate of 30 days or whatever it was used to burn up PCMs. And then even if you went to load an SCT file into the unit, you would get strange things that would pop up.

Only a blind module installation would bring it back around to normal from that state.




Papachuck hit the nail on the head. If you're happy with your purchase, great. Don't post false information about whatever you chose to buy for power numbers. If you want to run your truck on a dyno and put a dyno sheet up here, then feel free. I've got mine at home to compare. I know what my truck put down. I know it's more than a quadzilla truck is going to put down, but that's what I was after. No one product is designed to please everyone so be it. He said it best, just do you research before spending the coin.

I'm full of s**t and a preachy mister know it all or is it mister preachy know it all? I got you fooled, what I really said was-Do your truck just like mine or I will use the smiley with the pink buttocks!
 

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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"I bought my truck, 2005 6.0 Powerstroke, with a banks 6 gun bundle on it, but it wasnt hooked up. i took it to a local diesel tech who knows his stuff and had to replace 2 of my injectors and the ficm. he told me the banks programmer was at fault and that also a custom sct tuner burned a bad code permanently into the ficm which ruined the injectors. he runs a quadzilla programmer, forgot which one exactly, on his 05 6.0 dually and loves it. anybody ever have these problems with a sct?"

Read the bold, the evidense is in the FICM. I'm not trying to push the Quad but get tired of seeing some body elses choice bad mouthed. Just because it hasn't happened to you dosn't mean it can't happen
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cstem
"I bought my truck, 2005 6.0 Powerstroke, with a banks 6 gun bundle on it, but it wasnt hooked up. i took it to a local diesel tech who knows his stuff and had to replace 2 of my injectors and the ficm. he told me the banks programmer was at fault and that also a custom sct tuner burned a bad code permanently into the ficm which ruined the injectors. he runs a quadzilla programmer, forgot which one exactly, on his 05 6.0 dually and loves it. anybody ever have these problems with a sct?"

Read the bold, the evidense is in the FICM. I'm not trying to push the Quad but get tired of seeing some body elses choice bad mouthed. Just because it hasn't happened to you dosn't mean it can't happen

Are you really that ignorant? IT CAN NOT DO THAT. The info highlighted in bold is completely false. Explain to me how somethign can "burn a bad code" What the he!! does that even mean? FICM's fail on these trucks quite often, it's not tuner related. The evidence is in the FICM? What evidence? The tech is feeding this guy a line of shat. Whoever is working on that truck sounds like they have no clue what they're talking about. Why are you even agreeing with a tech you've never met before? You and that tech should go hang out on cumminsforum.

I don't even believe the Banks was at fault in this case, but that I'm not 100% sure of. I am 100% sure that no SCT burned any permanent nonsense into a FICM and destroyed injectors. If you knew what function a FICM had you would know it couldn't do that either. If you understood what these tuners do and how they do it, you would also know this isn't possible.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cstem
"I bought my truck, 2005 6.0 Powerstroke, with a banks 6 gun bundle on it, but it wasnt hooked up. i took it to a local diesel tech who knows his stuff and had to replace 2 of my injectors and the ficm. he told me the banks programmer was at fault and that also a custom sct tuner burned a bad code permanently into the ficm which ruined the injectors. he runs a quadzilla programmer, forgot which one exactly, on his 05 6.0 dually and loves it. anybody ever have these problems with a sct?"

Read the bold, the evidense is in the FICM. I'm not trying to push the Quad but get tired of seeing some body elses choice bad mouthed. Just because it hasn't happened to you dosn't mean it can't happen
Do you even read your own posts?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
Are you really that ignorant? IT CAN NOT DO THAT. The info highlighted in bold is completely false. Explain to me how somethign can "burn a bad code" What the he!! does that even mean? FICM's fail on these trucks quite often, it's not tuner related. The evidence is in the FICM? What evidence? The tech is feeding this guy a line of shat. Whoever is working on that truck sounds like they have no clue what they're talking about. Why are you even agreeing with a tech you've never met before? You and that tech should go hang out on cumminsforum.

I don't even believe the Banks was at fault in this case, but that I'm not 100% sure of. I am 100% sure that no SCT burned any permanent nonsense into a FICM and destroyed injectors. If you knew what function a FICM had you would know it couldn't do that either. If you understood what these tuners do and how they do it, you would also know this isn't possible.
Why are you so ignorant, if the code didn't get burned in then how did he find it and identify it as SCT ?
May be the SCT was faulty, any thing is possible. Are you a computer genious ?
How do you thinck the dealer finds the programers,some leave a footprint.

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Do you have a degree to back up your thinking ?
 

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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I have a mechanical engineering degree, but that has nothing to do with this. How did he identify it as an SCT? You tell me, there is no way he could have done that. If they left a footprint it wouldn't say which tuner it was for crying out loud.

This is like saying my tire blew because my truck was low on coolant. You just don't get it.

If an SCT was faulty, it still wouldn't effect the FICM. Holy cow.

I'm done with this, you're just not going to get it...

I still am waiting to see those quadzilla dyno sheets.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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You don't have a computer degree, and you don't get. Any thing can happen, even with your SCT's. I don't have a degree but do have 35 years of diesel heavy equipment experience-diesel mechanics and 15 years of truck driving. I have seen the things that the diagnostics can find.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Im tagging this for tomorrow so I can multi-quote all the fail in this thread.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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if a tuner could affect the ficm then they wouldnt sell custom tuned ficms guy!!!!!!!!!! Both the sct or quadzilla neither even touch the ficm its not possible!
 
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