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Old 10-08-2012, 10:24 PM
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okay fellas got a question, i have a 05 f350 6.0 i have 3 1/2 inch exhaust from turbo back, afe intake, and egr delete, there is a sticker under the hood from a company from a company in san angleo that says they installed a turbo in 2010 but idk if its after market or a reman i also have a edge evolution tuner set on extreme, now that you know what i have hears my question my eot stays petty steady around 130* my ect about the same but when on it from even a little bit in hitting like 1295* egt i know that on my idi motor thats way the hell up there and 1300* is dangerous why are my egts so high do i need to install a bigger exhaust what can i do my '94 idi runs about 1100* when im hot rodding it and untill i installed the edge on my 05 the idi would smoke it in the 1/4, any insight will help
OH and i know the common opinion about the edge programmer however my situation with them is a little diffrent than just buying a programmer and putting it on my truck. thanks in advance
 
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:48 PM
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Your EOT stays at 130*? That's really low for oil temp.

1300* EGT isn't anything to write home about. In shorts bursts it wont hurt anything, I've maxed my 1600* gauge out a few times. You just don't want to stay there for a long time. Think about it like an oven. Heat your oven up to 500*. If you stick your hands in quick to pull out a turkey, you wont get burned right? Put your hand in and leave it in for 20 minutes... probably burn it... understand? Just because your exhaust temps are that high, doesn't mean the parts inside are. It's just a number we use to gauge when we should be pulling fuel (letting off the throttle). You could cruise at 1100* all day and probably have no issues. Just make sure you let it cool down when you get to your destination, let it get to 375* or less before shutting off.

I've yet to see any IDI run with a 6.0, even a stock 6.0... you must have a pretty healthy IDI or a really weak 6.0. Most IDI's, even modded are still 100hp low or more on a stock 6.0.

Why is your situation different with your programmer?

What's the company name on the sticker for the turbo? Can you snap a picture of it maybe? Hard to tell what it is without more info.

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I would guess your turbo is just a reman whats the part number on it? As far as your EGT's are concerned if you wanna stick with your Edge, first off 4 inch exhaust will help, an aftermarket turbo like a Garrett Powermax or a water meth kit will help also. you could also do an aftermarket intercooler too but that starts getting expensive. 1295* on the oven gauge with an edge and a stock truck is typical. Although i dont recommend more than 1200* with a 6.0. High EGT's kill 6.0 heads. Your IDI is stock? If so and its faster than your 6.0 stock, your 6.0 isnt running all to well to begin with.
 
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Called the company that installed the turbo its a reman they also did head gaskets and studs i removed the egr cooler they installed. Transmisssion was replaced in 2009 by same company according to them they have been the only people to touch the truck since Crawford farms bought it new in 04 it was a haul truck for them usually only seen hwy with a load. As far as it running good or not it will eat 100mph in just over 3 city blocks. And no my idi is not stock (currently not running because of that ). As far as my deal with edge my brother is a dealer and i am only running the stuff he offers for sale on top of that we are tring to pull sponsorship for his little company and i am currently doing everything i can to help. I really like my edge and once you get someone who can do a custom tune the trans shifts so smooth you can barly feel it.
 
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How are you getting custom tuning for an Edge product?

Even a modded IDI should have troubles running a stock 6.0 down... it's not like their power houses haha.

You can verify if the 6.0 has studs by opening the hood and looking. Look near the valve cover, towards the bottom, there will be exposed studs or bolts (whatever is in there). If it's studded it will have a 12pt nut on it and the stud will have an allen slot in the top of it. If it's just stock TTY bolts, it will just look like your average 6 pt bolt head. You should see what gaskets they used too.

Why not just use the Edge as your gauges, but use custom tuning via an SCT? Your brother should look into picking up SCT.
 
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Just wondering what sct product number i found a tuner i think im going to try to see the diffrences between to edge and sct product num 3015 what kinda hp/ torque increases can i expect on the sct and is this the optimal tuner or do i neex to go with diffrent part# thanks
 
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Just wondering what sct product number i found a tuner i think im going to try to see the diffrences between to edge and sct product num 3015 what kinda hp/ torque increases can i expect on the sct and is this the optimal tuner or do i neex to go with diffrent part# thanks
The SCT 3015 is the SF3, which holds canned and custom tunes. The canned tunes are comparable to Edge tunes. It's the SCT custom tunes that make the difference.

To get SCT custom tunes, you need to contact a Authorized SCT custom tune writer. Check out Innovative Diesel, Gearhead Automotive, Quicktricks Automotive.

http://innovativediesel.com/

http://www.gearheadautomotiveperformance.com/

http://www.quicktricksauto.com/

They will need the SCT device serial number, the PCM strategy hex code, mods done to your truck, and what tunes you are buying.



The only tuner that I know of that is writing custom tunes for the Edge products is Power Hungry Performance.
 
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thanks for the info on the sct and idk what the company name that did my edge my brother did it. it was gone for a week when it came back night and day diffrence between before and after both power and the way it shifts..

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any one know how accurate is the test features on the edge the reason im asking is last night we weighed my truck at the scale house came in at 8823# with both the factory and my 100 gal fuel tank full, and my big box of chit ie. toolbox, with me in the truck, and according to the edge i ran a 15.13 at 97.2 mph, in the 1/4. the truck lost tracion at take off all the way through first and into second, then broke loose again going into
3rd. if its acurate not bad for a 8000# cclb truck i dont think going to put it on the actual strip when they open back up in march or april.
 

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Originally Posted by Jwebb
Just wondering what sct product number i found a tuner i think im going to try to see the diffrences between to edge and sct product num 3015 what kinda hp/ torque increases can i expect on the sct and is this the optimal tuner or do i neex to go with diffrent part# thanks
Coming from a former Brand E user here's what I have experienced:

Do you want to change your trans? Keep the Edge. Silky smooth shifts are the WORST thing for a transmission behind a hopped up motor. Firmer shifts = longer trans life, period. Oh yeah, transmission settings on Brand E are just some cool buttons to push because NOTHING happens.

Do you want mind numbing power that doesn't require a defuel setting because the program is AFU? Get an SCT with custom tunes. The mildest tune I used was Aggressive Street from IDP, it felt like Brand E's Level 4 Race setting.

I run my extended cab short bed on a track that is 4000ft ASL, on Brand E the best my truck ever ran was a 14.48. FIRST run on Matt's SRL: 13.898, NO OTHER CHANGES. IDP's Extreme tune went 13.9! That's 6 tenths over Brand E!
 

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Originally Posted by Jwebb
thanks for the info on the sct and idk what the company name that did my edge my brother did it. it was gone for a week when it came back night and day diffrence between before and after both power and the way it shifts..

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any one know how accurate is the test features on the edge the reason im asking is last night we weighed my truck at the scale house came in at 8823# with both the factory and my 100 gal fuel tank full, and my big box of chit ie. toolbox, with me in the truck, and according to the edge i ran a 15.13 at 97.2 mph, in the 1/4. the truck lost tracion at take off all the way through first and into second, then broke loose again going into
3rd. if its acurate not bad for a 8000# cclb truck i dont think going to put it on the actual strip when they open back up in march or april.

That's pretty slow for a tuned 6.0. However it sounds like you're running in 2x4? Is your truck 4x4? Try that. Boosted launch will cut a bunch of time.

My buddy ran a 14.44 in his CC/SB on 37" tires. He also has a 60 gallon WVO tank in the bed, so I'm sure his weight was close to yours.

The times on the Edge are probably accurate.

Is it possible it was sent to PHP to be tuned?


A typical SCT custom tuned 6.0 should be in the 13.8-14.2 range, depending on bed/cab size.
 


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