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Old 08-08-2012, 10:52 PM
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I am not big on the quick upload tune then putting your pda back into a box..

I like having the screen on my dash and having on the fly tuning..

With that in mind still, how does the SCT tunes work? Do I just buy the tuners and go onto a random diesel website and buy tunes for it? Why not buy them from SCT?

Also, the only tunes I want are a lot of smoke and economy for good mpg.

Anyone had any good things from the Banks six-gun IQ? I am thinking about buying it but I want good mpg on the economy tune and the extreme tune I want black smoke, and I AM NOT making a smoke switch.

Anyone give me some insight?
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRobenator
I am not big on the quick upload tune then putting your pda back into a box..

I like having the screen on my dash and having on the fly tuning..

With that in mind still, how does the SCT tunes work? Do I just buy the tuners and go onto a random diesel website and buy tunes for it? Why not buy them from SCT?

Also, the only tunes I want are a lot of smoke and economy for good mpg.

Anyone had any good things from the Banks six-gun IQ? I am thinking about buying it but I want good mpg on the economy tune and the extreme tune I want black smoke, and I AM NOT making a smoke switch.

Anyone give me some insight?
No offense man but u are gonna get ragged on ALOT saying you wants lots of smoke. Especially on these truck since it causes the vains in the VGT turbo to stick and the EGR valve to clog. Also if you do research SCT with CUSTOM tunes is the only way to go on a 6.0. Sure you can run the banks or some other tuner besides the SCT but have fun replacing your transmission because the adjustments that the tuners do is what keeps the trannys in these trucks holdinh 500 horse at the wheels.

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Also on the fly tuning is a VERY VERY bad idea on these trucks, because after you change a tune out it takes the VGT selonoid on the turbo, and the shifting selonoids in the trans about 30 miles of driving to relearn so changing tunes on the fly can tear **** up real quick on a 6.0 that is why there is not a shift on the fly SCT programmers.
 

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Old 08-09-2012, 07:09 AM
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I am the co-owner of Ace Transmission in Georgia, a transmission rebuild for me is what parts I have to put in it, so $250?

Also I really could care less about what others like as far as tunes, I specifically specified I would like a black smoke tune and if there was a programmer that came with one.

And how does the EGR valve clog when I don't have one?
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:50 AM
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well as far as the ERG valve since you did not put any ifno in your signature we do not have any way of knowing whta mods you already have, and I was not just saying the other tuners eat transmission but that they also cause shitty shifting, and you can do what you want obviously but most of us on here just want to give out good advice. Plus what about the vgt selenoid not being able to properly relearn with shift on the fly tuners. also i will be thanking people like you 20 years from now when we cant do **** to the newer diesel because the bad name smoke tunes has given us. I aint trying to be an *** but if you want a lot of black smoke buy a cummin common rail 5.9 and throw a smarty ssr on it.

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Originally Posted by TheRobenator
I am not big on the quick upload tune then putting your pda back into a box..

I like having the screen on my dash and having on the fly tuning..

With that in mind still, how does the SCT tunes work? Do I just buy the tuners and go onto a random diesel website and buy tunes for it? Why not buy them from SCT?

Also, the only tunes I want are a lot of smoke and economy for good mpg.

Anyone had any good things from the Banks six-gun IQ? I am thinking about buying it but I want good mpg on the economy tune and the extreme tune I want black smoke, and I AM NOT making a smoke switch.

Anyone give me some insight?
why ask that question if you dont care what other people think of tunes? Hell why even get on these forums if you dont care what other people think, because the forums are here for people to help each other out
 

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:17 PM
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I talked to SCT got it all taken care of, thanks for the input!
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:11 PM
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I'm glad you got it taken care of but I'm still going to give you my piece of mind.

Why do you want smoke? You think it's cool or something? I don't get it. See my sig. Smoke in reality is just wasted fuel. It doesn't mean you have a high HP rig. It means you're a fool. Now, you might ask why is that really high HP trucks have a ton of it? It is unfortunately a byproduct of some large HP builds. I'm talking 1500hp trucks. Not your 400hp DD. We are at a point where technology has come far enough, and we're lucky enough that we can run 500 and 600HP trucks SMOKE FREE on the street. Our community already has such a bad rap in the eyes of the public, do we really need to give them more reasons? Please, don't be that guy. If you want to blow some smoke on your buddy behind you on an empty country road, go for it. DON'T be that guy clouding out an intersection in town. No one thinks it's cool. Please smoke responsibly.

Most custom tune writers will tell you to get lost if you ask for a smoke tune.

g2shuck hit it on the head, shift on the fly is just a plain bad idea for a 6.0, the trans can not take updates like that. It needs to be shut off, and reprogrammed. You're willing to trash a $30k truck for 2 minutes of your life? It seriously only takes 2 minutes to change tunes on an 05+ truck. 2 MINUTES.

Most guys just load a hot tune and leave it there all the time anyways. Economy tunes are a fuggin joke. You will get the best mileage on the hottest tune you can get away with, IF you can keep your foot out of it. My economy tune gets worse mileage driving like a putz than I get on extreme street driving like an idiot.

SCT doesn't really make "tunes" for our trucks. The canned tunes are only slightly better than what you'd find on the Banks/Bullydog/Edge stuff. Custom is the only way to go. You can buy your SCT device right from one of the tuners, and get the tunes thrown in for free. So the question is why would you buy it anywhere else?

I can't believe you've been on here this long and just asked about Banks... Yuck! Overpriced, underpowered... they have a really good marketing team though don't they? You'd think they make some really cool stuff. Well, they do, but you can't buy it, cause it's not for sale. They sell junk programmers to the sheep. Their IQ unit should be called the Banks Idiot. It's not even a cool platform. It's outdated software and is miles behind the competition, but whatever.

Your truck, your money. You got on here asking for suggestions and you got them. It's not always going to be what you want to hear! We are here to help though bud! There's some things you'll pick up as you hang around.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
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1 spare tire
1 qt ATF
Put tire in bed, pour ATF liberally, throw match on tire, drive around.

Viola! A smoking Super Duty.

What!?! From the information you have given, I put into literal terms what you are going to do to your truck with a smokey tune, burn it down. Don't be mad, I saved you $500.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:15 PM
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Yeah I bought my SCT from MKM Customs and they gave me 3 free custom tunes, but yes, I plan on doing some proffesional pictures of my truck and one of them I want black smoke to fill the air, it's strictly for showing off, I'd never think of puking out black smoke at every red light to be attractive, in my opinion, it makes diesel owners look ignorant.

I may be 20 but I am not ignorant haha, I know black smoke is like eating five dollar bills.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
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Well put, Mike, but I would add that not ALL high hp diesels are smokers, Banks and another shop (forgot their name) are running 7s in the quarter mile in Duramax powered, ex-Pro-Stock trucks, tire smoke only.

Mid 7s, no smoke, tell me again what's so cool about a smoker tune?
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:25 PM
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Yes, but pulling trucks will always be over fueled, at least in the short term, they actually need the extra fuel to cool the cylinders believe it or not.

Banks is running 7's in their dragster with NO smoke. But that engine is on enough drugs to keep even the hungriest of meth heads happy.

Rob, I don't own a single picture of my truck smoking, and I refuse to take some. I was actually asked a couple years ago by a shop to send them some pictures of my truck blowing smoke for their webpage.

I'm glad you brought this up now. I'm going to make it a point in the truck of the month contests that the only trucks that should have any smoke in the picture are tire smoke, or are in some sort of competition (dyno/sledpull/track). Smoke is the black eye on this community man. It's the reason our trucks come with DPF's and Urea factory now and are going to have to pass emissions testing sooner than later. Keep it clean man!

I don't know anyone using MKM tunes FWIW.
 


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