What Can You Stack With The Edge With Attitude
You will notice an increase on the bottom end but some trucks lose top end power with the Comp/Smarty Stack. Best thing to add with the Comp is a good set of injectors.
Luke
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From: Mansfield, OH
The thing to watch out for as far as stacking with the Edge Juice involves the 03-04 "555" Cummins Engines. According to Edge, The Juice adds PRESSURE at the lower RPMs and transitions to timing and duration higher up in the power band on these engines. If you have a 555 engine, you really have to be careful what you stack with a Juice.
I've been told the Diablo Puck and even their Predator down-loader actually play pretty well with the Juice on the the 555 and may consider the down-loader when/if I upgrade my injectors and lift pump. Both are beyond their max with the "HOT" Juice.
I've been told the Diablo Puck and even their Predator down-loader actually play pretty well with the Juice on the the 555 and may consider the down-loader when/if I upgrade my injectors and lift pump. Both are beyond their max with the "HOT" Juice.
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how would you go about stacking 2 plug in modules since they use the same map sensor plug ins and such. also i have heard its not good to stack with edge juice on 03-04.5
03 Ram 2500 H.O. 4x4 QC SB 48re edge juice with attitude
03 Ram 2500 H.O. 4x4 QC SB 48re edge juice with attitude
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From: Billlings, MT
i've personally ran the edge hot juice / smarty stack on my 06 and i wasnt impressed, the smarty even had the "wild torque" downloaded to it, the only thing i did notice was the low end power but it fades away around 2300rpm which is right in the heart of your power......i'm running a TS MP8 with my edge and i love it.....the edge does timing and duration so if you run the smarty you can only run it on the even setting which do not add timing and since the smarty dosnt add rail pressure which leaves out a paramater that you can modify, then you are just adding more duration which is going to make it smoke more but not necciarly add that much more power.....the mp8 is rail pressure only and it is infinatly adjustable so if you have a RP gauge you can actually dial in exactly how much pressure you want to add and since you are not doubling up on any of the 3 paramaters then i feel like you get more out of it....i had all 3 of them on my truck at the same time and it felt like the smarty was overriding the edge, i couldnt tell any difference when i would change edge levels, the smarty was loaded on sw 8 .....you will need a fuel pump tho to keep up if you upgrade to the hot code on the edge....which i see you dont have it and i know its a ripoff that edge charges $100 to get the hot code but $100 for 60hp is cheep horsepower....you might want to consider the hot code first and then see if you still want more power, and if you do i would look at the different pressure boxes for a possible stack....ts mp8, dr performance predator, diablo power puck, edge EZ (depending on year) those are all pressure only boxes which all stack good with the edge juice
The fade your talking about, you were running the rail dry, meaning the CP3 couldn't keep up with the fueling demand.
I strongly advise getting a rail pressure gauge and an aftermarket fuel pump, BEFORE you stack chips and programmers on a common rail. Possibly a bigger CP3 also.
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From: boise, id
Great info so far, i know a guy that is selling me his juice with attitude for 200 because it "quit working" when he had the hot unlock code put on, I think he stacked a smarty with it at the same time so that would be his real problem there! I all ready have a edge ez so I'm glad to hear that they will work well together, where is a good source for getting a rail pressure gauge and what should it be running at?
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Personally - Ditch the Edge. We have been pulling them out at a rate of about 2 per month.
You want power? Smarty with gauges. Add a TS MP8 for flavor. It will run . . . . . .
Put a transmission in it and it will really run!
You want power? Smarty with gauges. Add a TS MP8 for flavor. It will run . . . . . .
Put a transmission in it and it will really run!
I have edge juice with the hot unlock airdog 150 and a built tranny gauges and intake im thinking about adding a smarty becuase i heard it has a torque limter shut off anyone heard about it? i live in ny so the smarty with the 3 cyl warm up would be nice but what should i stack my box with??
You would see a better increase in power and performance from a nice set of injectors. If your running a stock turbo we have some 60hp injectors that would work perfect. If your planning on an aftermarket turbo or don't tow then we have some larger injectors that would work as well.
Luke
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