Best Way To Build A 3rd Gen Cummins...?
ok i get asked alot by other 3rd gen owners what can they do to there truck what would i reccomand. and i know that sometime in the future i will be buying a CR cummins. i am pretty good when it come to a 2nd gen but lost when it comes to a 3rd gen...what is the hot setup to run. if i want to build a 500 to 600 HP CR how would i do it? is it pretty much the same as the 2nd gens???
CHIP- what would you run?
injectors- what would you run?
turbo- what would you run?
intake- what would you run?
exhaust- what would you run?
and i know work will need to be done to the trans and georend is the man for that. and i yes i know gauges...
CHIP- what would you run?
injectors- what would you run?
turbo- what would you run?
intake- what would you run?
exhaust- what would you run?
and i know work will need to be done to the trans and georend is the man for that. and i yes i know gauges...
You don't need injectors for what HP you list but you will need a lift pump like a FASS or Walbro. An Edge Hot Juice stacked with an EZ would be enough fuel for that kind of power and not drain your rail. A nice turbo would be an HTB2 62/12 from High Tech. AFE stage 2 Mega Cannon with a nice mandrel bent 4-5" exhaust would be needed as well. That combo would put you right around 500-530 on a 325 600/610 motor. If you wanted to crowd 600 then a heavier fueling box would be in order but you may run into the CP3 being a hindrance and might have to upgrade to a modded one from Floor It or similar then injectors would make sense and so on and so on. 500 HP is fairly easy on a common rail but 600 HP and up is a whole different ball game and that starts to get expensive.
U dont need duel fuelers to make that kinda power! Start with a good lift pump setup that way u have plenty of fuel supply (check outhttp://www.GlacierDieselPower.com) Then add like a TST R49AP for fueling, i would think with the new features that u would be able to get that power with out stacking! Id probably do some 90hp injectors (Don M's). Get a stage II CP3. Then upgrade the turbo, there are lots to chose from, Industrial Injection, HTT make some great chargers! Maybe try something in the 64/13 range, but if spool up is a must then the 62's would work better!
Round it out with a good intake and u should be good to go!!
But this is just my $.02 worth.
Round it out with a good intake and u should be good to go!!
But this is just my $.02 worth.
To start with, in my truck, which is a 6 spd, I would put in a stronger clutch, then from there, I would do a FASS fuel system, then I would start upgrading with a box, turbo, injectors, and the like.
Scott
Scott
I was very surprised to see on a totally stock 04.5 that after I installed a fuel pressure gauge it didnt take much to suck er down to dangerously low pressures......then after addin a power pup ya could suck it down to nuttin.......I added a FassII and all was happy after that
address the fueling issues so the cp3 will be happy
address the fueling issues so the cp3 will be happy
I've been able to make my best power with WOT fuel preasure to a modded CP3 at around 50PSI....thats right 50. I use Wicked Diesels Eliminator to do so. There is a write up on here somewhere that I posted.
with every cummins:
fuel delivery upgrades by means of a FASS, monitoring upgrades by means of ISSPRO gauges, computer upgrades by means of a smarty CR, clutch upgrades by southbend, trany if an auto by BD, exhaust if targetting over 500 HP go 5" mbrp turbo back with a muffler and a 6" tip. Injectors, dual cp3's, an EDGE COMP to stack and a set of twins with possible intercooler upgrades would be a good system. I forgot the air box. For that use a AFE stage 2 with the slick new filter media and a sock.
All said you are into a project well over $10,000 in materials and labour.
fuel delivery upgrades by means of a FASS, monitoring upgrades by means of ISSPRO gauges, computer upgrades by means of a smarty CR, clutch upgrades by southbend, trany if an auto by BD, exhaust if targetting over 500 HP go 5" mbrp turbo back with a muffler and a 6" tip. Injectors, dual cp3's, an EDGE COMP to stack and a set of twins with possible intercooler upgrades would be a good system. I forgot the air box. For that use a AFE stage 2 with the slick new filter media and a sock.
All said you are into a project well over $10,000 in materials and labour.



