5.9L CR Performance Discussion of 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Common Rail Injection Related To Performance And Longevity

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Old 05-06-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MRaynor
Thanks for the heads up.


Does it smoke more than the 4.11? ( I hope )
If the city, no make it the county hired me to do mosquito control, all I have to do is drive around a few blocks and they wouldn't have to worry about em for a while. Well I think I'd end up killing more than the mosquitos.

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Perhaps I exaggerated, but since the 4.4 beta, I missed the smoke. But now I'm back to blacking out a whole block
 

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Old 05-06-2008, 09:28 PM
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Again, THANK YOU! I tried to go back to the 4.10 that JSTANGE had emailed me, but it wouldn't work. I am sure the problem was on my end. I just never liked the 4.11.
 
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:30 PM
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From what I understand from Bob, once you update, you can't go back. IDK
 
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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My Smarty updated just fine. The problem started when I went to down load it into the truck. I kept getting SOFTWARE NOT RECOGNIZED. I think you are correct.
 
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:05 PM
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Suppose a person set the ECM back to stock with the 4.14 then tried earlier versions.
 
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:20 PM
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How high does the rail pressure go? Or do you know? Just curious, I don't want to pop anything.
 
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:24 PM
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I just found this on TDR and it is straight from Mr. Bob Wagner himself.


Tuning instructions for the REVOlution software


We provide you a whole new tuning concept with a handheld performance tuner.
For the first time the Cummins engine performance tuning software can now be customized by the customer.
The REVOlution starts here!
How does it work?
If you prefer the Smarty's default software configuration, simply skip the “Adjust Options” menu and choose the CaTCHER level you
prefer, as in the previous Smarty softwares. If you want to change the default setting of any (or all…) of the customizable items, you
can enter the “ Adjust Options” menu , navigate with the “ > “ and “ < “ keys to the item you want to customize and enter your
choice. Done! Smarty will do the rest. Once the end of the item list is reached, Smarty will store your selections in its memory. In
this way, your preferred selections will be applied every time you program your truck. As a simple example, if you set the Speedlimiter
to “100”, Smarty will always use that value for all ECM updates, until you change the value again or return the truck back to
stock. When you enter the “ECM update“ menu you will find the chapter: “Adjust Options“. Once entered, this menu allows you to
choose among several items and levels of customization.
Speed-limiter:
From 25 to 250 mph in one mile increments
Torque Management:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild
# 3 - Moderate
# 4 - Wild ( aftermarket clutch / AT Transmission recommended )
Then higher the # you choose then less torque management remains and then more aggressive the throttle response becomes.
Injection Timing:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - for stock injectors
# 3 - for aftermarket Injectors ( less timing advance than # 2 )
# 4 - for fuel economy ( more timing advance than level # 2 )
Important! The odd numbered SW's ( 1,3,5,7 & 9 ) use the advanced timing and the even numbered SW's ( 2,4,6 & 8 ) use the stock
timing.
This is only true if you don't adjust the options! With the Revo you can choose ANY timing you want, no matter if the Catcher you'll
download is odd or even! You CAN, add timing to the software's that have none, or use the stock timing in the odd # ones. Your
pleasure.... By definition for all adjustable options the default is # 2. EXCEPT for the timing. The timing has two defaults. # 1 for the
even numbered SW's ( stock timing ) # 2 for the odd numbered SW ( advanced timing ). To avoid confusion and to help the customer
in returning all levels to default ( if need be ), key # 0 is used to return Smarty back to the default levels. This is most important for
the timing. When Smarty is set back to default with key # 0, the even numbered software's will use the stock timing and the odd
numbered ones the advanced timing.
Rail pressure:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild
# 3 – Moderate*
# 4 – Wild* (aftermarket injectors are a MUST)
* In order to avoid damage to the injection system, do not use for prolonged time.
Wastegate: ( for the 2004.5 and up trucks with the electronic wastegate only )
# 0 - Stock (On)
# 1 - Off ( for aftermarket turbo )
 

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Old 05-06-2008, 10:31 PM
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Didn't set any codes or pop the relief, thank god. Seems to surge when I really lay on it. Must be from lack of a full rail or FASS can't keep up.

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Originally Posted by MRaynor
I just found this on TDR and it is straight from Mr. Bob Wagner himself.


Tuning instructions for the REVOlution software


We provide you a whole new tuning concept with a handheld performance tuner.
For the first time the Cummins engine performance tuning software can now be customized by the customer.
The REVOlution starts here!
How does it work?
If you prefer the Smarty's default software configuration, simply skip the “Adjust Options” menu and choose the CaTCHER level you
prefer, as in the previous Smarty softwares. If you want to change the default setting of any (or all…) of the customizable items, you
can enter the “ Adjust Options” menu , navigate with the “ > “ and “ < “ keys to the item you want to customize and enter your
choice. Done! Smarty will do the rest. Once the end of the item list is reached, Smarty will store your selections in its memory. In
this way, your preferred selections will be applied every time you program your truck. As a simple example, if you set the Speedlimiter
to “100”, Smarty will always use that value for all ECM updates, until you change the value again or return the truck back to
stock. When you enter the “ECM update“ menu you will find the chapter: “Adjust Options“. Once entered, this menu allows you to
choose among several items and levels of customization.
Speed-limiter:
From 25 to 250 mph in one mile increments
Torque Management:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild
# 3 - Moderate
# 4 - Wild ( aftermarket clutch / AT Transmission recommended )
Then higher the # you choose then less torque management remains and then more aggressive the throttle response becomes.
Injection Timing:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - for stock injectors
# 3 - for aftermarket Injectors ( less timing advance than # 2 )
# 4 - for fuel economy ( more timing advance than level # 2 )
Important! The odd numbered SW's ( 1,3,5,7 & 9 ) use the advanced timing and the even numbered SW's ( 2,4,6 & 8 ) use the stock
timing.
This is only true if you don't adjust the options! With the Revo you can choose ANY timing you want, no matter if the Catcher you'll
download is odd or even! You CAN, add timing to the software's that have none, or use the stock timing in the odd # ones. Your
pleasure.... By definition for all adjustable options the default is # 2. EXCEPT for the timing. The timing has two defaults. # 1 for the
even numbered SW's ( stock timing ) # 2 for the odd numbered SW ( advanced timing ). To avoid confusion and to help the customer
in returning all levels to default ( if need be ), key # 0 is used to return Smarty back to the default levels. This is most important for
the timing. When Smarty is set back to default with key # 0, the even numbered software's will use the stock timing and the odd
numbered ones the advanced timing.
Rail pressure:
# 0 - Default
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild
# 3 – Moderate*
# 4 – Wild* (aftermarket injectors are a MUST)
* In order to avoid damage to the injection system, do not use for prolonged time.
Wastegate: ( for the 2004.5 and up trucks with the electronic wastegate only )
# 0 - Stock (On)
# 1 - Off ( for aftermarket turbo )
Ran an odd # w/ #4 (fuel mile.) and it had a ton of rattle
 

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:40 PM
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Oh crap don't tell me that. All my fuel system is stock. I guess we'll have to play with it and compare notes for everybody.
I'll load mine tonight. I am driving the diesel to work tomorrow anyway. I'll post up how it does.
 
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:28 PM
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The rattle was from timing and not from the rail pressure.
 



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