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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Question Installing The FASS?

Hey Guys, Am new to the forum! I am on Dodgeforum alot but figure I would get some addivce from yall too.

I installed my FASS system on my 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 yesterday. Spent almost 5 hours on it. Bled the lines, bumped the starter to bleed them. Checked all the connections. The FASS in brining about 16 psi to the VP44 and still it wont start. Had to leave the truck at the shop last night. Any idea on what could be causing the no starting??

any help is great!.

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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You can almost count on the fact that there is still air trapped in the system some place. Your gonna have to crack some fittings open and bump the starter until you see a steady flow of fuel running out, no air bubbles included. Once you see that then tighten it down and go to the next one.

If there is not an excessive amount of air you can crank the starter and hold the go pedal to the floor while your doin it. This will open up the system and let the air pass through.

Odds are pretty good though that you have 16psi of air pressure being pushed by fuel trapped in the line someplace.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Alright. Thanks alot! When I get back to the shop. Will try and get more air out, but when we were bleeding the lines yesterday, there was almost so little air coming out that you could barely see any air bubbles. But we will try it some more. Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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You may just have air pockets in there. Fuel on both sides of it that you are seeing but to much air to make the truck run. The air also may be trapped in the VP44 itself. When you drain the whole system to replace major components it's an iffy thing. Sometimes you won't have a problem in the world with air and other times you will fight heaven and hell to get it all purged.

As an afterthought I'm assuming that you installed the FASS because of fuel problems. Are you confident in your injection pump still being good. If you were having fuel pressure problems prior to the install This might be part of the issue.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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YA its air in there........ya need to crack a few injector lines then bump the Fass a couple times.........................3 lines will get ya goin man
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Just for curiosity sake you may look through this thread also if you were having low pressure problems prior to this install. I can't speak for how much much of it I understand and agree with, but just tryin to get you all the info we can, just in case it turns out to be somethin more then air. But I'd put my money on air though.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-24v-performance/2775-fuel-pressure-problem.html
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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I was only having a problem in level 5 on the edge with attitude...i never saw it drop below 5 or 6 because i didnt let it...

ill try and get some more of that air out..

the only place we have been bleeding it is right next to the banjo boilt is where my edge attitude senor works....
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Easiest place to get to is the injector nuts. Just be sure you don't get crazy when you tighten em back up. Lot a people tend to way over tighten em. Even if there still air in the lines here and there, if you can get enough fuel to the injectors it will run rough while it works itself through.

Be sure to keep us updated on the outcome.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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alright..
thanks bud..
ill let ya know

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Man it took a while to bleed the lines, but we finally got it. WE just loosened the 3 and 4 injectors and let them bleed untill it started. Worked great! Now on the only problem I have is a little bit of fuel leaks where they had me install the drain in the fill net part and it leaks where the hose clamps are and they are as tight as could be..so we will figure that out next week...

but man does that FASS help ALOT if the EDGE! I Have nevetr seen below! 15 PSI and it stays rightat 16 PSI all the time! its great! for sure is a great product..

thanks for yalls help..
 

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Be very careful when you crack injector lines. The fuel is very high pressure and can cause SERIOUS injury.

Never stick your fingers anywhere around the injectors either when checking for leaks. Always use cardboard or something similar....
 
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