5.9L 24V Performance Discussion of 24 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with VP44 Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

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Old 08-04-2007, 10:49 AM
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i inherited a 98 dodge 3500 dually and i wanted to run bully dog triple dog on it...but a friend of mine says its not a good idea to run heavy duty programmers on stock injectors...do i need to upgrade my injectors?...ne suggestions for more power would be nice
 
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:10 AM
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First of all - WELCOME to the site. Lots of great info and guys here.

Second, is this a 12Valve or a 24Valve? In 98 there were two different engines.

Third, SSSSLLLLOOOWWW down a bit....do you understand the importance of guages? You dont mention guages or even the use of the outlook monitor. If you dont know much about diesels - heres the short and sweet on a 24V - using a programmer changes the fuel map and adds more fuel. Therefore, its necessary to monitor the exhaust gas temperatures with a pyrometer. This is necessary because the added fuel creates much more heat and if you dont have a pyrometer, you run the risk of melting pistons. You will also want a boost guage to monitor turbo performance and a fuel pressure guage to monitor the health of your lift pump. This is the absolute minumum that you will need.

Also, if you have a 24V you should also be looking at upgrading the lift pump.
 
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its the 24 valve and sorry i left out i do want the outlook monitor with it...im going to get a BHAF and stacks too
 
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Uh, ok...so you have an idea about what is involved.

Im not sure how aggreesive the bullydog box is, but I think you will be just fine with your stock injectors (for now anyway). I think you are much better off getting a fuel system upgrade and mechanical fuel pressure guage.
 
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:20 PM
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any suggestions for brands or anything?
 
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:22 PM
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brands of what?
 
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:26 PM
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gauges, autometer, isspro, diprocal there all good
bhaf, you can get them amost anywhere if you need a list of part numbers let me know
stacks, talk to grand rock
last but not least theres better programmers out there then the bully dog, like a smarty
 
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Best to Prepare for the bombs , Is it an automatic?

And Get a Fuel Pressure Gauge ASAP Cause our Stock Fuel Pumps Suck and it will die and take your Injection Pump with it ,

Once you have a good Platform the Skys the limit , But if you spend all your Money on Bombs then Something happens / Breaks because of last of preparation , Then you have a kick *** truck thats a lawn ordiment , Mines been like that a few times its not good

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Youll want a FP guage for sure. Seriously, it can save you a thousand+ bucks. I recommend Isspro (they match the stock guages the best), or DiPricol.

Get a 0-30 psi guage like this one:

http://www.dieselmanor.com/isspro/r5..._fuelpress.asp - If you go with Isspro make sure you get the EV (enhanced visibility) series guages.

or this one:

http://www.dieselmanor.com/dipricol/c307425opx_fuel.asp

I also like the Stewart Warner Performance line:


http://www.sw-performance.com/index....tails&p=114382
 
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:29 PM
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unless I'm mistaken the only bully dog for the 24v is the torque dog, the triple is only for the gen 3's
 


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