5.9L 24V Performance Discussion of 24 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with VP44 Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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I been running a comp for years. Now they came out with juice/attitude is there much diffence in the raw power? also whats the diffrence in the adrenaline? seems like it is more adjustible down low but lacks the top end of the edge boxes.

also I hear people talk about staking smarty with juice this seems like a good combo being thr smary is better down low and the edge is better ontop.


Been outa the loop for a while put the head back on with studs and a .020 marine HG and upgraded to sps 62 from ps 62 about 2.5 years ago and haven't touched the truck since...

just trying to catch up on the latest electronics!

post your combos and likes dislikes please! ! ! ! ! !
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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The Adrenaline will fuel harder than anything out there or any combo. A Stock and most aftermarket VP44's can't keep up with the demands of fuel. The best part about the Adrenaline is the custom tuning. You adjust parameters to best fit or truck, application and driving style.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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I dont wanna hyjack a thread so If I do I'll move but I'm also interested in how the Addrenline with pulse will be vs. the Edge with attutude.
Is there really any difference and does it fuel that hard that there can be major downsides even if it used at the track evey so often??
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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the edge comp and edge juice are supposed to be the same box just the juice has gauges and backdowns to protect the truck. I wish someone around me had a adrenaline so I could do a comparative study with it as I go to the track often and would change them out and run 3 passes each box same night at track to see what one worked better
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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I have run about every combo of boxes you can imagine and I can tell you that the Edge Comp or Juice wins the HP war every time.

Not only that, but it's faster at the track, a real indication of torque and horsepower transfer.

The Adrenaline has lots of promise, but needs a bit of fine tuning. Far too much fueling is aimed at the low and mid range to attract the Smarty lovers. The top end is sketchy depending on tune.

Smarty with anything will lose power over a single Comp. High HP trucks with autos will have some quirkiness as well.

So, from the TST, Blue Boxes, Redlines, Comps, Drag Comps, Juice, Adrenaline, EZ, Van Aaken, Smarty stacks and everything in between, the Edge stuff is the most Drivevable of the bunch.

You do lose some low end grunt, but that's good for smoke control and I get it back in spades with a heavier throttle. Not to mention that my line pressures improve at the lower throttle settings because of it. In all, a better way to go even with flaky components.

We sell most of what I have tried and a few things I haven't. There is nothing worse than promising the latest and greatest and having a customer let down after the install. Then I get to install another box on my dime. No thanks.



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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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I had the Comp, now i have the Adrenaline (no pulse) i have downloaded and uploaded a few pretty agressive tunes into the adrenaline and by seat of the pants feel i think the Adrenaline has more get up and go and kick.... just my opinion.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooster24v
I had the Comp, now i have the Adrenaline (no pulse) i have downloaded and uploaded a few pretty agressive tunes into the adrenaline and by seat of the pants feel i think the Adrenaline has more get up and go and kick.... just my opinion.
It does feel that way. I have only found one tune that could outdo the Comp and it was barely driveable.

I want it all. Great road manners and great power.

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Smarty with anything will lose power over a single Comp. High HP trucks with autos will have some quirkiness as well.

So, fishin, you're sayin stackin a Smarty with anything on the 2nd Gens will have less power than a Comp by itself? How is that possible? I'm really confused now, cuz I've been contimplating doing a stack recently, but I've never had one b4, so now I'm a bit skeptical.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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not to hijack a thread or anything but heres the results from my experiment with edge vs ADR. draw your own conclusions

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-2...-one-wins.html
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dukeboy_318
not to hijack a thread or anything but heres the results from my experiment with edge vs ADR. draw your own conclusions

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-2...-one-wins.html
That is very helpful I have been tryin to figure out what I wanted to go with
 
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