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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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I just ordered a draw straw kit from Vulcan (Draw Straw 1 kit) and am installing an Air Dog 150 kit also. Does anyone have any pics of install or any suggestions, tips when installing these. I know the Air Dog kit comes w/ a draw straw but the kit from Vulcan seems to be a cleaner install and adresses the issues of low fuel levels. Any feedback on this. I'm also installing a fuel gauge kit up at IP. Thanks for any help.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Don't drill a hole in you tank when you don't have too... AirDog now has a pickup system that uses your stock factory fuel basket and it eliminates all 1/4 tank issues period. Even Vulcan can't say that...
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Rattler
Don't drill a hole in you tank when you don't have too... AirDog now has a pickup system that uses your stock factory fuel basket and it eliminates all 1/4 tank issues period. Even Vulcan can't say that...
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Actually, we can!

The DS1 as mentioned above is the ORIGINAL DrawStraw that goes IN the module bucket! Always has, always will. It is the fix for all '94-'04 trucks with an external pump! I can run mine down low enough to need 34 gallons of fuel without any pressure issues. It simply replaces a module fitting and goes to the bottom of the bucket. We are working on more revisions right now. In fact, they are done awaiting release. We have also had this model available with dual returns for quite some time. So a guy can return his bypass fuel AND his factory fuel into the same bucket he is drawing from with that 1/2" DrawStraw all in the same module.

The 1/4 issue comes from using a DS2 and not installing properly along with the use of bypass pumps. Also, the DS2 was developed for the pump manufacturers to provide them with a simple and effective way of reducing in tank restrictions. This was a low cost budget minded system and that's why it is the way it is.

It remains a staple today. And we are continually revising the line. Like the new DSV. Also goes in the bucket, replaces the factory pump with a positive located pickup. One hole to drill in the module top and it is the most effective way of getting fuel out of these modules.

We don't rely on multiple piece, difficult assemblies. We keep it simple and effective. With tens of thousands of various DrawStraws sold. we know how and why each product works and how to get the most out of each of them.

We include everything necessary to hook up the kits along with the proper fuel line. Not that blue air line used as fuel line or green line used by some that is NOT compatible with bio or veg oil. We keep our customers covered and try to keep the cost down. Yes, we could make a much more expensive system that would do more, the market has not requested that one yet.

So let's keep the facts straight. We do have products that do and always have solved the 1/4 tank issue!

Dave
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Its hard to beat Vulcan Performance...
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Sweet, good answer. Never had anything that told me it solved it 100%. Plus the blue "airline" is rated from diesel to vegie in my setup
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Rattler
Sweet, good answer. Never had anything that told me it solved it 100%. Plus the blue "airline" is rated from diesel to vegie in my setup
If you are using the stuff shipped with the kits out there, it is not rated for that use. In fact, there is only one blue colored hose that is.

All of our installs get the kit hose thrown out. I bet I have a pile of it 6' deep. We switch all the components for the installs to fuel/ bio/ veg oil compatible hose and JIC adapters with swivel fittings. It makes for a clean install and allows the customer to disassemble components for testing or repair. Costs us a few bucks, but it's the way it should be done.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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For what it's worth here was my solution to the drawstraw issue. My truck never get's thirsty. https://www.dieselbombers.com/cummin...pply-line.html
 
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Seems like I made a good decision going w/ Vulcan. I just hope the install goes well. Thanks Dave you guys are awesome to deal with. Also thanks to Rattler for the Quick response and suggestions. Everybody on DB are always willing to help out (that's what count's).Bubba that setup you have is a great idea alot less stress on the pump. Thanks for the input everyone. If anyone has anything else i'm open for any suggestions or ideas.

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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hey guys,

I am going to be droping the tank or taking the bed off to fix my fuel gauge sending unit,

What are the benifits to changing the straw?

sorry if this has been beat to death new to the forum

My setup runs a 7# carter on the rail and a stock carter LP with 6an hose and fittings and runs around 500hp with mach 4s
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rivercat
hey guys,

I am going to be droping the tank or taking the bed off to fix my fuel gauge sending unit,

What are the benifits to changing the straw?

sorry if this has been beat to death new to the forum

My setup runs a 7# carter on the rail and a stock carter LP with 6an hose and fittings and runs around 500hp with mach 4s
I hope your runnin a fuel pressure gauge someplace where you can see it all the time cause I would have a hard time believing that these carter pumps a feeding enough fuel to keep those mach 4's fed.

The draw straw is just one more restriction in the flow of fuel that is being eliminated. The same thing as getting rid of the banjo Bolts it opens up a bigger hole to flow fuel through.
 
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