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Old 09-10-2008, 10:25 PM
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I just ordered a Fluidampr, I'm debating weather or not I should instal the pin kit???
I just don't see how those roll pins are gonna add any strength to the four Grade 8 bolts.
Can anyone shed some light on this???
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:41 AM
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I am unfamiliar with the setup but I will add that a roll pin is a very strong piece that does more than you would think.............if they supply it in the kit than it prolly has a purpose otherwise they wouldnt spend the money building it that way
 
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:25 AM
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Grade 8 bolts are strong enough to be sure but with this hardness comes the fact that in high vibration applications they are also brittle. The bolts would provide the gripping strength to hold everything together and the pins would prevent the vibration and rotational forces from snapping the bolts.

Grade 8's are good for certain uses, stronger isn't always better. Since I'm a trailer guy the best example I can think of is trailer hitches. They never come with grade 8's, and they should never be used. With the pulling forces moving the metal parts back and forth against each other grade 8's tend to either shatter or vibrate loose after time. In this case grade 5 bolts work better because they flex with the parts and keep everything tight.
 
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:49 AM
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ill be pinning mine........
 
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba
Grade 8 bolts are strong enough to be sure but with this hardness comes the fact that in high vibration applications they are also brittle. The bolts would provide the gripping strength to hold everything together and the pins would prevent the vibration and rotational forces from snapping the bolts.

Grade 8's are good for certain uses, stronger isn't always better. Since I'm a trailer guy the best example I can think of is trailer hitches. They never come with grade 8's, and they should never be used. With the pulling forces moving the metal parts back and forth against each other grade 8's tend to either shatter or vibrate loose after time. In this case grade 5 bolts work better because they flex with the parts and keep everything tight.
hmmm,never thought of that before,but it makes sense.
 
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:56 PM
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That Does make sense! So, when/ if the time came to replace the front crank seal, would a guy just drill the old pins out, and put new one's in after reinstalling the damper?
 
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:00 PM
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yeah I would say thats how you'd have to do it, unless you could get the damper off with them in place. Left hand drill bit would be ideal.
 
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when i do mine im going to put a new crank seal in it.......
 
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:08 AM
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The pin doesn't come with Balancer,
you need to order the pinning kit.
 
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I just bought one an the instructions says if you race or turn the motor over 4000 rpm to pin it .
 


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