Bumping Timing up on a 1996 12v...
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Bumping Timing up on a 1996 12v...
I Have a 1996 12v I was thinking about bumping the timing up on it. Far as I know the truck is all stock.. Someone slide the fuel plate so I don't know to much about it. But I was reading around some people told me to do it a couple of degrees and others told me to 16 to 20 degrees, What should I do? Some one told me to even get a marie head gasket for it. Would like some info.
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If youre fuel plate is slid you should have a pyrometer and boost gauge at the very minimum.
Yes, the factory injector pump timing tends to slip from the factory setting. You should be bumping the timing to 16 or 17 degrees max. Yes, some guys go for more....but it wont make your truck run better and you we be risking a head gasket replacement.
Do you know about the Killer Dowel Pin (KDP) Issue? - If not, read up on it. If you are bumping the timing its a very good "time" to take care of the dowel pin.
Yes, the factory injector pump timing tends to slip from the factory setting. You should be bumping the timing to 16 or 17 degrees max. Yes, some guys go for more....but it wont make your truck run better and you we be risking a head gasket replacement.
Do you know about the Killer Dowel Pin (KDP) Issue? - If not, read up on it. If you are bumping the timing its a very good "time" to take care of the dowel pin.
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The Killer Dowel pin is a pin that is used to locate the timing case on the front of the engine and prevent the case from woalking around. The pin somehow was undersized from the factory and can work its way out. The results range from fairly minor to almost catastrophic (thousands of repair $).
There are two fixes.
1) the jig method - which involves renting or borrowing a special jig and then drilling the timing case and installing a set screw.
2) the Tab method (the preferred method) - which involves pulling the front of the timing case off the engine and installing a tab over top of the pin so that it cant work it way out.
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Dowel_Pin/bolt.htm
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Dowel_Pin/tab.htm
Also here: https://www.dieselbombers.com/cummin...d-the-fix.html
There are two fixes.
1) the jig method - which involves renting or borrowing a special jig and then drilling the timing case and installing a set screw.
2) the Tab method (the preferred method) - which involves pulling the front of the timing case off the engine and installing a tab over top of the pin so that it cant work it way out.
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Dowel_Pin/bolt.htm
http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Dowel_Pin/tab.htm
Also here: https://www.dieselbombers.com/cummin...d-the-fix.html
Last edited by Dr. Evil; 11-17-2008 at 04:42 PM.
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ok....the black smoke could be from the plate being slid, it also could be from a different fuel plate. Also, a cut or leak in one of the 4 intercooler boots will cause black smoke. Many people go ahead and replace these boots with heavy duty one as well as HD clamps.
But you are essentially right - too much fuel or not enough air - or both.
But you are essentially right - too much fuel or not enough air - or both.
Last edited by Dr. Evil; 11-17-2008 at 04:51 PM.
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