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Old 11-24-2013, 06:53 AM
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I bought a 1995 dodge cummins yesterday with 113400 miles on it. Its a manual tranny cab and chassi. My question is whats the difference between the 175hp manual tranny injection pump in the 1995 and the 215hp pump in the 1996 and ups. Is it simply the delivery valves being 181's where I have the 131's . Or is there also a difference in the injectors too . Is there diifference in the pump that makes the difference in hp other than injectors and delivery valves.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:39 AM
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the cam shaft is the later pumps allows for a quicker rate of fuel delivery. so they make more power @ higher rpms. they flow a it more fuel, have 181 DV's and have something like 5x10.5 injectors where as you most likely have something like 5x9.5 injectors.
awsome score on the truck with that low of miles. do not get in your head that you ...little pump... cant make any power. the only reason to change it out would be to make power in the 700+ range or because you fried the original and have one laying around.
 
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Old 11-24-2013, 05:32 PM
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Thanks this helps me alot, The pump will do everything that i wanna do I plan on doing alot to the truck over time its not may daily driver. Its gonna be my tow rig primarily. I want a little more power and some fuel economy when towing.
 
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the 215 personally are best for second gens, i'd sell the p7100 and buy a 215. but theres also the 180 that does well, what are you wanting to do?
 
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:11 AM
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The only real reason to get rid of the 175/160 pumps is if your trying to make power above 3500 rpm ... other than that reason I will take the 175/160 over the 180 or 215 anyday
 
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:29 PM
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nice set of Delivery Valves seemed to help me out quite a bit. make the flow real nice!
 
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:59 PM
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My goal is to build it to tow with. I want the egt to stay in good range. I will be pulling my rock crawler with it. I'm considering a set of budget twins. Maybe the stocker over an ht3b. I don't really want to have to o'ring, or fire ring the head and i'd like to stay with the stock head bolts. So twins might be more than the stock head gasket and factory bolts can stand. Any help with a configuration that will be good for towing will be appreciated. Whats a good set of delivery valves, injectors, fuel plate to run. Clutch will be upgraded when it dies. Have my gauges but don't have them in yet.
 
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:02 AM
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Unless you never use what you've got, twins will be too much for the stock HG and studs. I lifted my head with just the stock turbo @45psi.
How heavy is your crawler? I regularly hit the scales weighing over 20K, and that was before I did injectors and head work. I had no problem at all towing these loads (hundreds of miles a week) and maintaining at least the speed limit on all hills and highways, with just an exhaust, GSK, no plate and the AFC forward (and a damn good transmission, but with a stick truck you shouldn't have a problem). My EGTs never went anywhere near the red, 1200-1300 was high for me and I was never there for long. I average around 600-1000 pulling. You won't need DVs, injectors or a fancy turbo(s) to get this job done just fine. I do, however, highly recommend head studs at the very least. o-rings are great, but I've found that head work can become a domino effect that balloons faster than a spooling hairdryer...
 
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:33 PM
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You've got a good plan going on. Twins are a must for awesome towing capability. You can use bolts, but torque them to 125 lb-ft, or 150 lb-ft if you're feeling froggy. If one bolt turns way more than the others, replace it. As a minimum, get the head surfaced too, mine blew on my 95 even with studs, because it was so far off.
 
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Old 02-15-2014, 07:13 PM
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So with all this good info, whats a good fuel plate to run. Exhaust, exhaust manifold, and better intake will be in the works. I have 3 k gov springs, boost elbow, and gauges all uninstalled at the moment. I will eventually have the timing bumped to 16 degrees my fuel mileage is not that great above 55 mph only about 14.5 mpg. I have 4.10's so I guess this is to be expected. My rock crawler weighs 5000 lbs and I haven't purchased a trailer yet, still trying to decide on goose neck or bumper pull, cash is a factor on that. I know its expensive but I'm digging that pusher 3.5 mega twin intake. I'm keeping it below 60 this week and checking mileage again.
 


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