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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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Default Smarty or PPE for 04 Dodge?

Which is a better programmer for this year ive heard different things just trying to get good info before i buy.Any help?

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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smarty for sure. I wasnt impressed with PPEs options
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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its an early 04 if that helps any iver heard good and bad of both..
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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From your: ADVISE? post

In my experience between a Smarty, Bully Dog , and a PPE on the 03 and early 04 (which is what you say you have) the PPE is hands down my favorite. Plus with a PPE you can get their HOT tune that is a 300 HP tune. On my truck the PPE was tremendously better than the other two. The Smarty seems to fuel harder on the bottom end then drifts off in the middle and is pretty much done by a little after the 1/8 mile on the track. Also down low it makes my truck smoke ridiculously. The PPE fueled a lot harder in the middle and defiantly fueled harder on the top end. My times were consistently better with the PPE than with the Smarty. Plus my EGTs were lower. For me I don't need help with low end fueling , I have injectors for that , I need and want my fueling in the middle and top end. As far as on the dyno I put down a little over 700 HP at the rear wheels through all 4 of my 22.5s and 40 inch drive tires with a PPE and Dr. Performance module.



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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Do you know all the settings on the ppe? how many does it come with?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CoalTrain99
Do you know all the settings on the ppe? how many does it come with?
The STANDARD PPE comes with 3 settings guaranteed to give you a 2-3 mpg increase. The levels are 85 ,155 ,and 215. With the PPE HOT+2E.T. the third level (215hp) is replaced with the 300Hp tune. They have a lite and low timing version of this programmer along with one that has no timing if you are going to run another module suck as an Edge or TST that controls timing. In my truck I make my 700+ runs on the 155 setting. I have also outran a BMW M3 on that setting. Like i said the PPE has a better fueling curve to me than the Smarty or Bully Dog. You have a lot more in the middle and on the top end.
 
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